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RSL's avatar

Free speech is one thing, but inciting violence, threatening people, disrupting a university, causing property damage, etc are another. This is a Green Card fake student here by the good graces of the U.S. who is no longer welcomed. It’s not his speech that is the problem. Stop pretending that this is a free speech issue.

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Jared Barsky's avatar

He did not incite violence; he protested against violence. Universities are places for protesting because students are meant to be safe to express themselves. Higher education institutions have historically been critical in fostering change and activism. He was legally in this country, and therefore, he has full access to rights and liberties. It was free speech for MAGA when it was blatant racism, misogyny, etc., but now it is too far when criticizing our government and universities for funding Israel.

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Flo Philpot's avatar

So these privileges for foreigners and rights for citizens can be revoked for legal residents, but not for citizens. I see no issue with the deportation. He is a guest of this country, he should act like it.

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Jared Barsky's avatar

He’s not a guest he is a legal resident. Again he had a green card. He was not given a trial or warning. He was practically kidnapped. He has the all the rights that you have as he is under the jurisdiction of the country. Please try and properly space your periods from your next sentences next time❤️.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

It was a riot,property damage is not free speech; disruption of academic schedules is robbing students of something (supposedly of value that their parents or their progeny paid for wfiat money & they paid with their time. No , they were not as dramatic as the ‘mostly peaceful protests oftge spring of 2020, but followed the same playbook.

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Jared Barsky's avatar

Show me evidence of riots and large amounts of property damage.

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Nick's avatar

Are you that delusional that you're denying property damage? I mean you've obviously seen the videos and heard the stories, right? Or do you only listen to pro-terrorists foreigners for your information?

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Jared Barsky's avatar

Where is the evidence that Mahmoud participated in any form of property damage?

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Jared Barsky's avatar

For someone with an education this paragraph is tragic.

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Nick's avatar

These are illegal demonstrations. It's not that hard to understand. Seems like you're okay with the forceful takeover of property?

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Jared Barsky's avatar

Protests are not illegal, and they were in the Columbia uni protest zone as students of said university.

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VSBobby's avatar

I just have two questions to ask for you, Jared. What if you were to find out he was a paid agitator? We have found out already that many BLM and most AntiFa protesters were paid. Do you think the pro Palestine protesters are different from these other protesters in respect to payments?

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Nick's avatar

Protests indeed can be illegal. I think you need to brush up on some legal readings. The Columbia uni protest zone did not allow for buildings to be forcibly taken over and be barricaded by students while causing large amounts of damage. Not to mention there were many people involved in these protests that did not go to Columbia. Why is that? This isn't a first amendment issue.

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Jared Barsky's avatar

Yes. Actually it has happened before; it happened during apartheid and for civil rights protests. However, even if there was some grounds for deportation, he would need to have had a trial at immigration court. This right to a trial was disregarded by the current administration. You’re right this is a 6th amendment issue.

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Jenny Hendley's avatar

George Soros USAID funded by we the taxpayers. TRUMP IS not doing any such thing. He wants these instigators out of our Country, as do I. Thanks RSL.

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Grant Waldman's avatar

I understood that Trump is supposed to be a peace maker. If so then why is he taking sides in this war instead of holding Israel accountable for their crimes against humanity??!! The same goes for the Taliban in Syria!!

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Because it is Hamas that is guilty of crimes against humanity, remember Hamas started it October 7,2023 & if you want to get historical then they started it (or their fore fathers did in 1947).

Do you have Alzheimer’s disease or something?

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

What kind of MD are you? Obviously not the type of doctor that is trying to save Palestinian lives while working in hospitals that have been deliberately targetted by Israeli jets dropping American MOABs. Or amputating childrens limbs or removing IDF sniper bullets from little skulls without aneasthetic because your Zionist friends block aid, food, fuel and medical supplies from crossing into Gaza. Does your faulty ideology trump your hypocratic oath?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

The way to save lives here, girlie, is for Hamas to release their hostages dead or alive (& without the grotesque taunts accompanying the releases of the hostages and/or the coffins & corpses).

You are not commenting in good faith, or you have been heavily propagandized or drugged.

Now, go let Hamas have their way with you.

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Ahhh that's it. You must be a proctologist freelancing for the IDF because you like f***ing innocent detainees up the a**e.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Your insults don’t even make sense. Bye bye.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

The hospitals were targeted by Hamas when they hid their weapons and command centers under them. That you are oblivious to that fact & its implications is the only statement I will make to this useless air head.

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Debunked as propaganda sweetie.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Uh, no, dearie. Only in your fevered imagination. Care to cite some evidence?

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Grant Waldman's avatar

Who let Hamas in?? Who funded Hamas??

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Irrelevant as to who is funding Hamas now. We originally funded Taliban to weaken the Russians.

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Grant Waldman's avatar

Really??? Hmmmmmmm

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Yes, they were the Soviets back then and it may have helped get them out of Afghanistan, but ultimately it didn’t work out so well for us. That’s why Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires.

How old are you?

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Mark Phillips's avatar

Never get involved in a land war in Asia… as the saying goes.

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Influence through Confluence's avatar

Remember: it’s the Jews who started the Warsaw uprising and massacred the peaceful German Nazis who were just doing their jobs of keeping the Germans living next to the ghetto safe!

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You are being sarcastic, aren’t you?!

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Influence through Confluence's avatar

No you are! when you said Hamas started it on October 7th 2023. You seem to have Alzheimer’s disease.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Explain your self. Hamas incursion & atrocities broke a cease fire on October 7, 2023; they were the aggressors & now they are paying the price. You are a lying or ignorant fool.

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Grant Waldman's avatar

Who let Hamas in?? There is lots of evidence that the IDF killed its own people!!

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Influence through Confluence's avatar

You didn't even know who Benny Morris just a few days ago, I am sure you still don't. I am under no obligation to explain myself to ignorants like you.

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Pop Cultural Appropriation's avatar

I also believe one of his major donors is a lady who is a 100% Pro-Israel.

I like Trump (sorta) , but this is wrong. You HAVE to be able to label things what they really are.

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Grant Waldman's avatar

Trump is biding his time. He is not beholden to his donors like people think. He will deal with Israel soon enough.

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Pop Cultural Appropriation's avatar

I do hope so. I voted for him, but -per another comment I made-- I've been to the Middle East quite a bit, and Gaza twice, and you CAN see that it IS an occupation. It is what it is. And I get his strategy about making "outrageous " claims to bring people to the negotiating table (it actually works)... but Gaza is a MESS. I'm rooting for him and his team.

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Grant Waldman's avatar

It’s actually Israel’s (aka Deep State) war against Iran. That is about to end for good; similar to the shutdown of the genocide in Gaza, Palestine and Syria!

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Emmanuel Goldstein's avatar

Get ready for another massive wave of Orange Bolshevist denialism. Those Clementine Communist mangomongers border MSM Hillary-shillery liberal depths of abysmal totalitarian fascisimping.

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Bruce Gruber's avatar

“… illegal protests…”

The ‘definition’ of this Presidential

CLAIM (of ‘authority’ or ‘presumption’) borders on insanity. Protests by the CLAN, MLK JR, UNIONS, WOMENS MARCH, JAN6 INSURRECTIONISTS, RIGHT TO WORK folk, Teamsters, Nurses... Endlessgroips.… C’MON TRUMP! Your racist, ignorant, pontificating DIVISION of Americans is a DISEASE that demands TREATMENT!😵‍💫😰🤡😎

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

TDS , Brucie boy. Who is paying you to post Soros, or js there still $$ in your USAID account?

Or are you just off your meds?

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Bruce Gruber's avatar

Typical Russian infill to Trump propaganda. Your regurgitation scores ZERO, but then ‘cut-and-paste is the same as cheat sheets, Classic Comics, and cheating on the girl’s test next to your desk.

Locked ‘pages’ with ‘nothing’ of value or importance only demonstrate copy- at MAGA simple-mindedness… poor you🤡😵‍💫😭😎

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Eff you, you senile person.

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AmericanMutt's avatar

This is non-sense. What we are dealing with here are paid and well trained political chaos makers. This person should be arrested, jailed, deported if he is lucky. I would rather squeeze information out of him to find his co-conspirators who I believe are formenting evil upon our country. Let's see assault, creating a riot, taking over a building, etc. That sounds like a few years in prison to me maybe longer. Send the professional disruptor to Gitmo and go collect his 'terrorist' friends as well.

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Emmanuel Goldstein's avatar

OK "AmericanMutt," so you hate free speech and endorse Communist gulags for peaceful dissenters. Got it.

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AmericanMutt's avatar

So anyone who commits crimes while wearing a keffiyeh is a free speecher and anyone who you disagree with is a communist who endorses gulags? We are talking about a paid political terrorist here not a grandma. He should be labeled a terrorist and be sent to Gitmo along with any of his buddies who are also terrorists. If you do not want to be jailed or kicked out of the United States try protesting peacefully and not taking over universities. Doesn't sound like you get it. Maybe you endorse such behavior?

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Influence through Confluence's avatar

Paid political terrorist? Are you talking about the Zionist hoodlums? Sounds about right.

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AmericanMutt's avatar

So if I dress up in a Keffiyeh and assault both verbally and physically Jewish Americans then we are blaming 'Zionist hoodlums?' Not following your logic but please continue to embarrass yourself with this non-sense.

Their is no excuse for the behavior of this movement on Jewish people or the college communities where this happening. No excuse.

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Influence through Confluence's avatar

Physically assaulting Jewish Americans? Indeed, the Zionist hoodlums did physically assault the students all over the country. You got that right.

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AmericanMutt's avatar

Zionish hoodlums? What and who in the world are you talking about? You just spurt non-sense. Are you talking about regular law abiding Americans? Christians? Jews? Who does this label represent? Please be specific you are not making any sense?

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John R. Grout's avatar

You have to realize that they are always right and “fascists” are always wrong.

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Pop Cultural Appropriation's avatar

Its incredibly disappointing. I'm conservative, but after several trips to the Middle East and a couple to Gaza specifically -- and I have ZERO skin in the game -- it is UNDENIABLY an occupation. It is what it is.

This is getting just plain weird (and I'll even say "evil") pretending like it is something else and NOT being able to cal lit that.

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Frances Leader's avatar

Never forget that Trump is the snake that you let in even though you knew he was a snake.

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Baz's avatar

And….”Politics is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex”

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Baz's avatar

In their system they there was nothing between them - if you are Palestinian, same outcome.

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Frances Leader's avatar

That is true. I abstain from voting in the UK. We have the same Uniparty here.

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Baz's avatar

As Frank Zappa famously said: “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

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Diane J's avatar

Me too. 👍

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Mark Ende's avatar

I am sure you like the commie Starmer.

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The Optimistic Ginger's avatar

These protests often include support for Hamas and other radical groups. We know these groups have infiltrated our country. Should we be allowed to take preemptive action to prevent festering? If not, when would it be reasonable to do so?

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Greg Salmela's avatar

Is there a line? What does a liberal and free society do when faced with an illiberal movement that intends to undermine said society?

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Jeff's avatar

“…because he had led protests against the genocide in Gaza”

Your biggest problem is that there is no genocide in Gaza. Just a bunch of terrorist who would like nothing more than to see you dead and destroy your way of life.

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Dan Fonke's avatar

This is not betrayal This is our government standing up to an individual openly supporting a terrorist organization. I support President Trump to protect us from all who support terrorism.

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Does anyone else see the hypocracy of Donald Trump's incitement of a far from peaceful protest on January 6th, 2021 and his subsequent pardons for the guilty participants AND his recent punishment of peaceful protestors who are speaking up for Israel's victims of genocide and Netenyahu's war crimes?

Perhaps Trumps duplicity is because he was born under the sign of the twins (Gemini) and is therefore able to hold two conflicting beliefs simultaneously. Are there good people on BOTH sides?

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Thanks. I have been writing about democrAcy (or lack thereof) so much lately l slipped up.

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Mark Ende's avatar

Peaceful, lol. And learn how to spell hypocrisy! In other words, get educated.

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John R. Grout's avatar

The concept of free speech presented here is Communist. It goes back to the Berkeley Free Speech Movement. Don’t be confused by their patter about free speech being allowed anywhere at any time. They are talking about THEIR free speech… the Marxist vomit spewed out of these anti-Semites’ mouths. Anyone who speaks out for Israel (or the POTUS) is a “fascist” to be silenced by threats and anger and riots. I hope they start yelling obscenities at the Marines in the tanks armed with canister shot. They can outswear and outshoot any rioters.

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K.G.'s avatar

Totally disagree with your take on this. Mahmoud came to this country with bad intentions...organized several violent protests..proclaims affiliation with designated terrorist group...is a foreign national. This is not solely a free speech issue.

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Roger Moyers's avatar

He hates America. Out he goes. Sooner the better

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MJW's avatar

Shill!

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El Jefe's avatar

He’s a MI6 asset, it will come out.

Definitely not regular student.

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