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Baz's avatar

I’ve posted this elsewhere this morning but it’s relevant here too:

We are in the 21st

century, right?

Israel/US leadership seem to believe they are acting out some sort of divine mandate.

If that’s not insane enough it’s like they’ve dragged the world into a particularly cruel Book of the Tanakh/Old Testament.

Hopefully the Messiah will be well-versed in deescalation diplomacy 🤪

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Baz's avatar

Abe - let’s just hope with the way things are going at the moment there will be a future history we can be on the wrong side of.

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Seeker's avatar

Well look at it this way if Germany is standing beside you, in agreement then it is gauranteed that you are on the wrong side of history.

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Old Abe's avatar

Baz you’re on the wrong side of history here.

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Baz's avatar
Jun 22Edited

Congratulations Daryl , he has achieved what other presidents could only dream of - making America a totally untrustworthy entity globally in any capacity diplomatic or otherwise.

Oh and with peacemaker Trump doing an excellent job of stopping all wars one has to ask ‘who is fooling who?’

Get back to us once America is great again, thanks.

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Gee's avatar

Baz is a hate baiter.

I'm glad this regime is crumbling.

Iran will be free again. The Arab people are tired of this shit.

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Seeker's avatar

The Iranian government is not crumbling. How are Iranians not free? Every government in the world has a level of unpopularity, is every government crumbling? Iranians are not Arabs and you seem to be clueless of what is causing the disagreement, it's a matter of a religious schism not politics.

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Baz's avatar

Touché

My turn…….

Gee is a hate baiter.

I'm glad this regime is crumbling.

America will be free again. The American people are tired of this shit.

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Gee's avatar

Now you're getting it. Hence the destruction of nuclear capability from hostile actors.

Baz, enjoy your pond. It's shallow here.

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Baz's avatar
Jun 22Edited

I see your ‘Rational actors’ and raise you a Donald Trump.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

I'm thrilled we finally have a president again with balls and a working brain.

https://darylhunterpolyhistor.substack.com/p/the-pendulum

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Anny Soumo's avatar

Israel is a rogue nation which is a threat to the safety of all humanity.

Israel’s #SampsonOption targets everyone, friend or foe. #Israel is determined to destroy humanity. #EnoughIsEnough

USA and NATO must neutralise Israel’s WMDs. This means an Iraq style invasion of Israel. The non Jewish population of Israel is also under threat, and there is a responsibility to protect. IMMEDIATE ACTION IS NEEDED.

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Nathan Self's avatar

Israel takes more territory in response to being attacked. Now maybe they provoked this. With their continued existence. But when you're enemy, fully states, there purpose for existence, is elimination of the jews, and the israeli state. Kicking their ass, stratigicly eliminating their leasership, soldiers, supplylines, and taking their land through self defense is simply devious.

Israeli government has nuclear bombs. They honestly could eliminate most of the Islamic threat to themselves. Why then did they put in all the efforts to surgically remove the cancer that is the treat. Rather than the whole population?

Look at how egypt treats palestine. The border between egypt and gaza. How the egyptians treat the palestinians. If this is such a humanitarian crisis created by Israel. Why don't the other Islamic nations. Step up and give shelter to the palestinians? They sure love to spend money on weapons against Israel. They sure love to put on a show. In the media, the UN, and the world stage. The palestinians are disposable fodder and publicity for antisemitism.

Islam is the threat to the world. Islam can't even coexist with other factions of Islam. They have a mandate to spread islam throughout the world. They'll let you live in peace. If you pay them off. Anytime you're going to negotiate with terrorism. You simply invite more in the future. You cannot make peace with somebody who believe in your death and destruction. The greatest act of religious dedication. Is to kill non-muslims and to die in the process. You can't live in peace with somebody. You know whose only purpose this is your death, and destruction.

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Anny Soumo's avatar

Nonsense, boomer mental gymnastics. You’re not worth any more of my time than that.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

You are pretty full of yourself honey.

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Emily's avatar

Why should other countries be required to take Palestinians from their own country to facilitate Israel stealing their land?

How could the “only purpose” nations be the death of Israel, when those civilizations have existed for many centuries, under mostly Muslim rule for the better part of 1400 years, and the Levant hasn’t been Jewish-ruled since 300 AD? Did they just get to the second half of the 20th century and suddenly forget their own culture existed and decide their new reason for existing was an irrational hatred for Jews, for no reason? Weird.

Israel is the threat to the world. Iran hasn’t started one war in modern times and they don’t have a nuclear weapon. Israel is a crazy state with illegal nukes and a nuclear doctrine that calls for global annihilation out of spite, which is more blackmail than deterrent. A hyper-aggressive rogue state that can’t go a day without violating international norms can’t speak of deterrence. It needs to be pacified.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

This has been Jewish land since 1500 BCE, until the Roman colonizers kicked them out in 50 ACE. The Jews were in the Levant before the Philistines arrived around 1000 BCE, then morphed into the Palestinians.

Yassar Araphat should have taken the 2-state peace deal Clinton offered, no sympathy for them after they refused it.

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Emily's avatar

Sorry, it hasn’t been Jewish majority since 300s AD. Romans took over in 37 BCE, and the sack of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple was in 70 AD. The area transitioned into being majority Christian around 400 until the 600s, and it’s been majority Muslim for the 1400 years since.

Prior to the Romans in 37BC, during the Hasmonean dynasty (140-37 BC), the Judeans took control of Judah and Israel from the Saleucid empire, and spread Judaism to Israel. The 100 year Hasmoen period was the only time when there was a self-ruling, majority Jewish, united land of Israel and Judah. Prior to Seleucids, going back to 1500 BC, the area was ruled by the Macedonians, Persians, Neo-Babylonians, Neo-Assyrians, various polytheistic nomadic tribes, and Egyptians. I guess if counting all ancestors of second temple Jews you could say the Jews were in Israel for 1500 years (longer, really since nothing changed in 1500 BC when Egypt took over). But that’s a pretty loose statement.

These Jews, of course, are not the ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews.

The Philistines did not morph into the Palestinians, although they are etymologically connected. There are several classic Greek references to “the Syrians who live in Palestine” and “Syrian Palestine” and even Syrians who live in Palestine and practice circumcision, almost surely a reference to Jews. The official name Palestine was given to the region 800 years after the disappearance of the Philistines after a Jewish rebellion, likely because the king liked all things Greek and that was the classic Greek term, and to make it seem less Jewish and show his parliament that he had things under control.

Anyway, it seems unlikely that Jew-hatred is a central tenet of cultures that developed independent of any major Jewish presence.

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letterwriter's avatar

Someone whose only purpose is to hate the Jews?". tell everyone you are a flaming narcissist without coming out and saying so. If the murder of Palestinians is just to get attention that otherwise wouldn't be given to a supremely uninteresting group of people, there are ways to get attention that don't generate hate and don't send the Jews sledding down to hell.

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mois78's avatar

You are correct on many points, but, incorrect on ignoring a couple of facts.

1- Egypt is not taking the Palestinian refugees because they tend to be Muslim Brotherhood type, which has been a threat to the Sisi regime.

2- Egypt and all Arabs are concerned that once the Gazan people leave, they will never be allowed back in to their homes.

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Chris He's avatar

Absolutely vital for humanity to eliminate this threat by eliminating the racist, arrogant entity that holds these views over our heads. Since their MO is constant lying, nothing should stop us from occupying and dismantling the fake state.

It must be done to bring peace to the world again.-

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The Climate Curmudgeon's avatar

Antisemitism is back!

You Defenders of Islam ought to educate yourselves on how impossible this discussion would be in a Muslim country.

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Peter Defeel's avatar

This particular discussion would be popular in a Muslim country.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Oh shut up, I'm so sick of you Jew haters. The threat is from those who chant "death to America.

https://darylhunterpolyhistor.substack.com/p/pondering-the-origin-of-anti-semitism

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Esborogardius Antoniopolus's avatar

So what? America is dying and with it Israel.

And nobody is killing America but herself and you stupid boomers.

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Anny Soumo's avatar

I’m sick of Narcissistic sociopaths like you. No Jew has the right to do what white racist scum have been doing for centuries. White Zionists Jews are like your ancestors, you have no right to steal land. I’m glad the world has turned against racist white parasites like you.

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Chris He's avatar

I am totally sick of the slimy defenders of 'izrael', a false state that lies at every turn and produces endless suffering for millions of innocent people- with nothing but greed and racist superiority as cause! Fucck all these disgusting twisters of everything true and beautiful, for their sick reasons.- No more. No mercy.-

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

???

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

“My word is my bond”

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

Indeed the real enemy has again had it’s way!

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Holly Hapsberg's avatar

The radical leaders of Israel, not the Jews, have proven themselves to be liars,

arrogant, corrupt and inhumane,

A danger to themselves

and all of humanity with policies like;

the Samson Option,

the Hannibal Option

and the evil, inhumane

treatment of the humans in Palestine.

Whoa to those who choose to

support such a regime,

for they shall also,

surely be judged by

Our Father in Heaven

on the day of Atonement.

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James Roberts's avatar

Israel is a nation whose safety is threatened by all of humanity, would be more accurate.

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Anny Soumo's avatar

Israel is a parasite entity, just like your colonialist ancestors.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Israel is saving our ass honey.

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Anny Soumo's avatar

No, Israel is the problem, just as boomer parasites like you are.

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Garrett Smith's avatar

There's only a few reasons Israel is still supported. Blind tribalism. Sociopathy. Bribery. The tribalism is based in ignorance. That can be fixed if the person isn't exceptionally rigid. But tribalism creates rigid fuck heads. Sociopathy, enough said. Bribery, enough said.

I forgot one, blackmail. But I wonder if there's blackmail at play? I can't imagine such a tactic being used as a means of gaining military favor in order to implement the greater "something" project. Can't remember the something word. Is that the tip of my tongue and starts with a vowel, possibly the Third

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Baz's avatar

What a way to run a planet.

Who knows where the borders of Greater Israel will eventually be.

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James Roberts's avatar

About the same as the borders of the Caliphate, except the Caliphate has many more subscribers.

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Baz's avatar

Does this ‘caliphate’ have a name equivalent to Greater Israel ?

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James Roberts's avatar

The Global Caliphate, not sure what they call it in Arabic, but you could try asking Al-Qaeda or ISIS for starters.

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Peter Defeel's avatar

Is this the same Al Queda who have taken over Syria with the help of the US? Be great to get rid of them but the US/Saudi alliance won’t allow it. Also if the US wanted to fight Al Queda maybe they could have helped Iran and Hezbollah who were fighting Al Queda. I know that you are one of the 80% of Americans who can’t find Iran on a map and can’t tell the difference between Sunni and Shia but look it up b

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James Roberts's avatar

Ah yes, ad hominem for the win, every time!

I'm no expert in US support to various armed factions in Syria, but apparently you have chosen a side, including support for Hezbollah - great choice - and a guy that gassed his own people, in what appears to be a complex and uncertain morass:

"The claim that the U.S. provided support to groups affiliated with al-Qaeda during the Syrian civil war is a contentious and complex issue. Here are some key points that are often discussed in relation to this claim:

Support for Rebel Groups: The U.S. provided support to various rebel groups in Syria, some of which had loose affiliations with more extremist factions, including al-Qaeda. The most notable group in this context is the al-Nusra Front, which was the official al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria. The U.S. aimed to support moderate factions, but the fluid nature of alliances in the conflict made it difficult to ensure that support did not inadvertently benefit extremist groups.

Intelligence Reports: Some intelligence reports and analyses have suggested that U.S. arms and support may have ended up in the hands of extremist groups, including those linked to al-Qaeda. This has been a point of criticism regarding U.S. policy in Syria, as the lack of vetting and oversight in the distribution of aid raised concerns about unintended consequences.

Statements from Officials: Some former officials and analysts have publicly stated that U.S. support for certain rebel groups indirectly benefited al-Qaeda affiliates. They argue that the U.S. strategy of supporting a broad range of opposition groups created an environment where extremist factions could thrive.

Complexity of the Conflict: The Syrian civil war has been characterized by shifting alliances and the emergence of various factions. The U.S. has often found itself in a position where it had to navigate a complicated landscape of both moderate and extremist groups, making it challenging to maintain a clear and consistent policy.

Criticism of U.S. Policy: Critics of U.S. involvement in Syria have pointed to these dynamics as evidence of a flawed strategy that may have inadvertently strengthened extremist groups, including those with ties to al-Qaeda.

While there is evidence to support the notion that U.S. support may have indirectly benefited groups with extremist affiliations, the extent and nature of this support remain subjects of debate among analysts and policymakers. The situation is further complicated by the chaotic nature of the conflict and the evolving landscape of alliances among various factions."

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Baz's avatar

Ah yes, the ones that liberated Syria for Israel.

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James Roberts's avatar

What a simple minded notion.

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James Roberts's avatar

As for Shia, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has a stated mission that includes "extending the sovereignty of God's law throughout the world".

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Baz's avatar

Not unlike the USA then?

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mois78's avatar

Perhaps Begging, Moscow, DC,....

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Baz's avatar

😬

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Peter Defeel's avatar

> case you missed the summary, it is argued that the US tried to support moderates. Can't fault them for that.

I’ll sell you a bridge in Brooklyn for a dollar.

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Steve Sutley's avatar

Amazing amount of bullshit on this post. The Jew hatred is thick, which seems to drive all of you pour morons out of your minds. Never again means never again, get that through your thick skulls.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Agreed, it is disgusting.

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Mike Williams's avatar

I agree. It's funny this post should come up because I often thought that to safeguard its future Israel should threaten all of its Muslim neighbors with the caveat leave us alone, were happy with what we've got, we want to live in peace and actually work with you for all our mutual benefit. But if we are betrayed for Islamic religious doctrine we'll take all of you out and deliver you to paradise and all of your people's. Live and let live and everyone prospers....It's just I'd heard of the Samson option and not understood it properly in terms of how it came to be but this article explains it brilliantly.

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Jonathan Weinberg's avatar

Isn't it remarkable watching what has crawled out from under the rock Hamas lifted on October 7?

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Disturbing, I mistakenly believed the prejudice of our country was largely behind us, I was wrong.

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Jonathan Weinberg's avatar

Clearly. It's been amazing to me, coming from my center-right perspective. My daughter is left-wing, and was stunned on 10/8 to discover that all her friends with whom she marched at BLM protests and pride parades felt that she would have deserved to be gang raped if she had attended the Nova music festival.

On the other hand, it has clearly demonstrated to us that Israel must be secure, just in case.

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Wow, that's an amazing anecdote about your daughter. I hope she learned something from it, and maybe start getting some wisdom from you.

I would like to believe still that our American culture is moving beyond racism for those of color of not for our Jewish people. Anti-semitism has always puzzled me so I started taking notes of my observations, and it became a Substack article.

https://darylhunterpolyhistor.substack.com/p/pondering-the-origin-of-anti-semitism

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Esborogardius Antoniopolus's avatar

Uncultured people like you would have a hard time understanding this post. Cool your jets, this is not material for the consumption of people like you. Go back to TV watch your tele evangelists

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

An arrogant one you are LOL

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Steve Sutley's avatar

Bite me!

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Usamnesia's avatar

“every Israeli accusation is a confession.”

Zionism 101

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Oh, so you are saying they learned gaslighting from America's democrats? LOL

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Usamnesia's avatar

I’d say they learned it from the American political class in general although even that odious group is just the administrative assistant to the true playmakers

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

I might add, American universities exponentially magnified by tic toc.

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Boris Petrov's avatar

Despairing while watching helplessly US genocide in Gaza for eighteen (18) months -- Cecilia Bartoli - Gelido in ogni vena (immortal Vivaldi)

https://youtu.be/EMd7i5Bhd1E?si=6KE4HJoEhze-Ddi4

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The Haeft's avatar

What genocide ?

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

By Genocide, you mean the Karma Gaza got after their attack on Israel on 10/7. OK, thanks for your opinion.

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Tony Seymour's avatar

The 1963 "battle of the letters" between JFK and Ben Gurion re inspections at Dimona were declassified in 2019.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2019-05-02/battle-letters-1963-john-f-kennedy-david-ben-gurion-levi-eshkol-us-inspections-dimona

Ben Gurion dramatically resigned to avoid further dealing with JFK.

The moment LBJ became President on 22 November the topic of Dimona was dropped; indeed LBJ authorised massive arms shipments to Israel which were crucial for the 6-Day War in 1967.

Clearly there is a prima facie case for Zionist collaboration in Kennedy's assassination, and ample evidence starting with Michael Collins Piper's 1995 book "Final Judgment".

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Usamnesia's avatar

Hence the diversion that the mafia/CIA were the culprits. Just like Covid….let the bewildered herd argue over lab leaks and wet markets while the DOD/DARPA wunderkids ran the show.

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Old Abe's avatar

Is willing to use them? Based on what? Please provide your proof of this incendiary comment - made so authoritatively. And Iran WAS created nuclear bombs - that’s what the IEA said and what everyone knows is true, especially b/c there’s no other use for 60%+ enriched uranium when 5% is sufficient for non-military purposes. Not to mention their nuclear program - if not exclusively for military use - is so far underground ONLY because it’s to build a nuclear bomb. So enough with your BullSh*t. Stop spewing rhetoric and lies. At least I hope your “followers” have enough common sense to know that Iran is the world’s largest sponsor of terror and destabilization around the world. “Recent cases in the UK, France, and Czech Republic show how far Iran’s reach extends...from Europe to the U.S. and beyond.

This isn’t about isolated plots. It’s a deliberate, global campaign of terror and destabilization.” And that’s not even mentioning Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Somalia, Sudan, Libya, etc. The only threat Israel poses is by NOT finishing the dirty work that the rest of the world should be helping with. Then we are all screwed. Once Iran wipes Israel off the map and kills all the Jewish people, they are coming after all the rest of the infidels. That’s no joke, and why this matters to everyone (who is sane and wants peace and prosperity.) Don’t believe the talking points from liberal, progressive media and most of social media. They are lies and meant to manipulate. They hope you don’t do your own homework and seek context and facts, and instead parrot them. Like sheep or robots.

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Esborogardius Antoniopolus's avatar

Take it easy boomer. Your frantic and disjointed writing show that you are under great distress after reading this article. This is no good for your health, calm down.

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James Roberts's avatar

Deception and subterfuge involved in the development of a nuclear weapons program - wow! Who'd have thunk? And Israel has a policy of nuclear deterrence? Unheard of!

I wonder why any other nation states haven't developed nuclear weapons in secret? India, Pakistan, North Korea? Oh wait!

A good rule is probably if a fascist theocratic state tells you they are developing nuclear weapons, and demonstrating the capability for enrichment and weapons building, you should believe them.

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mois78's avatar

It is the highest hypocrisy to ask another guy to come to a fight, and to dictate conditions:

1- You are bringing with you few big guys and lots of guns, and the guy should come by himself with no guns?

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Mea Ambrosio's avatar

We hate truly hate these people

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The Haeft's avatar

Because you’re evil with hate in your heart

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Mea Ambrosio's avatar

No because Israel is EVIL. Middle East is peaceful except for this rouge, Un-Semitic people.

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James Roberts's avatar

Flipping LMAO

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Put down the pipe, you are hallucinating. There are ten thousand-year-old walls throughout the Middle East to prove you have never been in peace.

Un-Semitic you say LOL

Semitic | səˈmɪdɪk |

adjective

1 relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.

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The Haeft's avatar

Ah yes queers for Palestine …. Iran Iraq, Houthi attacks on Saudis ….isis …. Brutal killing and torture of dissidents in Iran - regular killing of Coptic Christians in Egypt. Yesterday’s Islamist attack in Niger that left 34 dead …It’s easy to be stupid online. Why not move to Iran and see how you get along ?

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Daryl L. Hunter's avatar

Put down the pipe, it is making you stupid.

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Mea Ambrosio's avatar

Polish people, or Poles, are a West Slavic ethnic group and nation who share a common history, culture, the Polish language and are identified with the country of Poland in Central Europe

That’s BB ugh

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Tony Seymour's avatar

Is there truth in the suggestion that Israel's participation in the 1956 Suez operation was a quid pro quo for French support on its nuclear program?

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Sarah Alard's avatar

For anyone interested, I've written about Iran's nuclear programme, you can read it here: https://sarahalard.substack.com/p/its-not-nuclear-weapons-stupid

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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Great PSYOP. Love it. For those wanting to learn more:

https://www.polymathicbeing.com/p/psyop-until-proven-otherwise

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Gee's avatar

Glad to see the dissident is still bathing it their own waste.

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Seeker's avatar

Israel has ran into the reality that there is no longer two major nuclear power where they could ally with one to maintain nuclear blackmail. The really funny aspect to this farsical scenario is the emphasis of Iran "developing" nuclear weapons. As Medvedev made clear nuclear warheads can always be gifted to Iran from different states. Iran already have delivery systems, the most difficult aspect of a nuclear weapon. There are rumors that Israel has hidden nuclear devices in their embassies globally. If there was ever a real greater threat to humanity it's difficult to percieve.

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monkey.work's avatar

The U.S.–Iran conflict took a sharp turn in 1979 with the Iran hostage crisis, when 52 Americans were held for 444 days after the U.S. embassy in Tehran was stormed by Iranian students aligned with Ayatollah Khomeini

That event marked a major rupture in relations and set the tone for decades of tension.

As for your other points:

1. Israel and Iran's rhetoric: Iran’s leadership, particularly under Ayatollah Khamenei, has made repeated hostile statements toward Israel, including calls for its elimination. Israel, on the other hand, has not issued reciprocal threats to obliterate Iran, though it has taken military action against Iranian proxies and nuclear infrastructure.

2. Population and conflict: Israel’s population is indeed about 10% of Iran’s (roughly 9 million vs. 89 million), and it has historically relied on deterrence and preemptive strikes to manage threats, especially from Iran-backed groups like Hezbollah and Hamas.

3. Iran and terrorism: The U.S. government designates Iran as the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism. It provides financial and military support to groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis.

4. Drug trade: While Iran has a complex relationship with narcotics—fighting trafficking on one hand and allegedly enabling it through proxies on the other—there are credible reports linking Iran’s Quds Force to smuggling networks that may indirectly contribute to the global drug trade.

5. Obama vs. Trump bomb drops: In 2016 alone, the Obama administration dropped an estimated 26,171 bombs, mostly in Iraq and Syria. Under Trump, the numbers were also high—particularly in 2017 and 2019—but exact totals vary by source. For example, in 2019, the U.S. dropped over 7,400 bombs in Afghanistan alone, a record for that theater. So while Obama’s final year saw a massive spike, Trump’s administration continued and in some cases intensified air campaigns, especially in Afghanistan and against ISIS.

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the Crab's avatar

You lost me at “genocidal,” but I will read this megalithic tomorrow. Interesting that you are not providing your name.

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