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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

At this rate, dems are done.

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Doug Belknap's avatar

Need to be scrapped and replaced

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BenMedia's avatar

What I really hate about Identity Politics is that it's a cheap way of trying to appeal to marginalized groups without actually helping said groups. Here's an example: you mentioned multiple times that a major concern many Americans have is housing. Well, the LGBTQ+ Community is the most at risk of being unhoused. So, pushing for free or affordable housing would benefit a lot of people, but would specifically benefit the LGBTQ+ Community. But instead of something that would materially benefit them, the Democrats want to brag about having gay people in the party, because doing the affordable or free housing wouldn't help the donors.

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Scott's avatar

When Kamala Harris decided to fully embrace Dick and Liz, and to actually campaign with them, it was the end of her hopes for 2024 and should be the end of the notion that she has any kind of good political instincts whatsoever. The ad with the actors telling the camera that voting for Kamala doesn’t make you gay? The “I have a gun in my house and I’ll shoot you with it” ad lib?

After “what would you differently than Joe Biden?” “there is not a thing that comes to mind”, they should have shown her the exit door, at that point she had conclusively proved she has no business running a WaWa soda machine, much less a country.

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voila713's avatar

Or maybe this is the ruling elite’s plan; i.e. offer an alternative to the Republicans that is so absurd and offensive that no one with a brain will consider it an option at all, and so the populist fascists win by default. Either way, the Dems have gotten us to the point where we are, with their warmongering and endless BS about needing to reach across the aisle no matter how powerful a mandate they have. Sadly, they have long ceased to exist as a viable alternative to the republicans, at least since Hope-bama made it clear he had nothing better to offer the country after the miserable Bush years.

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Gerda Ho's avatar

The so- called liberal Nation Magazine is also doubling down on the trans agenda by doing a complete hatchet job on the recent UK ruling on sex , whining that trans people “ may not be able to legally pee at all.” Oh, my ,where have we heard that before?

Sophie Lewis, who wrote the article and who wants the family abolished,because,you know, children suffer from it, says that “,Cisness (sic) brutalizes us all”! Sure, Sophie, it’s really brutalizing to be normal and to have a family! Much better for kids to trans and deny their parents!

Sophie also comes down on Helen Joyce, whom she calls a trans- annihilationist (her word?) and eugenicist!

Anti -trans is literally fascism in her view!

The Nation actually publishes such crap now! What a shame!

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BAILEY BUILDING AND LOAN's avatar

Normal american voter here. I had to google "brat summer". Good job Dems!

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Scott's avatar

So meet the new strategy, same as the old strategy. Call the other guy Hitler and try to bring him up on charges that everyone with two brain cells left will find offensive and absurd.

They are so convinced that they are smarter than everyone else that they have become too stupid to win elections anymore.

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Scott's avatar

Is this different from the moronic old Democratic strategy of insulting every interest group that usually doesn’t vote for them?

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RamboDave's avatar

Yes, you are correct. The polls now show that Harris lost because of the wars in Gaza and Ukraine.

Furthermore, there is evidence that Biden and his Zionists zealots intentionally delayed the Gaza cease fire deal for eight months so that Israel could launch its attack on Hezbollah, weaken it, and allow for a coordinated regime change offensive by al-Qaeda rebels in neighboring Syria after the US election. They wanted time to prepare the ground for regime change in Syria. They had to keep the Gaza war going to accomplish this. There is also solid evidence that the continuation of the war in Gaza for those eight months cost Kamala Harris the election.

What this means is that Biden put his zealotry for Israel, allowing Israel to keep and steal more Palestine land, above his own Democrat party loyalty. This is the ultimate betrayal.

The Gaza cease fire deal that was announced January 19th, is word for word, the same as what was put forth last May, and which Hamas agreed to last June. Israel and Biden intentionally delayed the deal so that Israel could weaken Hezbollah starting in September, with the exploding pagers, ground invasion, assassinations, and massive aerial bombing. All of it done in coordination with al-Qaeda rebels, now called HTS, preparing their offensive from Idlib province in Syria. It was all coordinated between Israel, Turkey and the U.S. That is why the Gaza cease fire deal was delayed by the US for months, with Blinken lying about Hamas delaying the deal. They wanted time to prepare for regime change in Syria.

Here is the evidence. The US supported al-Tanf rebels, located in the Southeast of Syria, at that US controlled border crossing with that same name, say that they were instructed to prepare for the 'mother of all battles' days before the al-Qaeda (HTS) rebels even launched their offensive toward Aleppo from Idlib, and then later down to Damascus. These al-Tanf rebels, numbering about 3,000 according to The Telegraph, were so prepared that they actually captured Palmyria far to their North, cutting off the road to Deir Ezor in the East, and the only remaining road to Baghdad, which Iraqi Shia militias might use to rescue the Syrian Army. The al-Tanf rebels advanced all the way to the suburbs of Damascus days before the al-Qaeda rebels even got to Damascus. A U.S. B-52 bomber was flying cover for them high above each day, just in case it was needed. This was not done without a lot of planning.

Thousands more civilians in Gaza died during this delay, and dozens of hospitals and schools were bombed, all so that the US and Israel and Turkey could achieve their long-promised regime change in Syria. It was a promise made by George Bush neocons to Saudi Arabia back in 2002 in exchange for Saudi 'permission' for the US to remove Saddam in Iraq. This permission from the Saudis' was necessary for that Iraq war to proceed in 2003. Throughout the previous decade, following the Gulf war of 1991, the Saudis' had refused to allow for this removal, fearing a Shia takeover. That is why the US stopped short in 1991 Desert Storm. The Saudis did not agree to go further.

But, in 2002, the same list of proposed regime change countries that was shown to General Wesley Clark, as he describes on numerous YouTube channels (see the links below), was also shown by Dick Cheney to Saudi Prince Bandar out at the Bush ranch in Texas. The list included seven Countries, hostile to Israel, where regime change was planned. This same list of countries had also been part of a position paper called “Clean Break”, which was written by the same neocons for Netanyahu six years earlier in 1996, to remake the Middle East. The plan was also set forth in 1998, “The Project for the New American Century”. The plan was to give the US and Israel total hegemony in the Middle East, with the ability to dictate peace terms to Palestinians, allowing Israel to keep all of the land it stole. As a result, in 2002 the Saudis finally agreed to the Iraq war, knowing full well that Iraq would soon be ruled by Shia Muslims, but in exchange, Assad would later be removed in Syria.

The Iraq war cost the lives of over 4,000 US soldiers. Did any of them, when they enlisted, think that they would give up their lives to make the Middle East safe for Israel, so that Israel could keep the land they stole?

So, with the recent regime change in Syria, twenty years delayed by the insurgency in Iraq as well as the rise of ISIS in 2014, and the intervention by Hezbollah in 2011, and Russia in 2015, the US finally fulfilled its part of the grand bargain made to carry out the Iraq war back in 2003. Thus, the Deep State war on Syria transcended multiple Administrations to accomplish it’s goal, and was planned as far back as 1996.

The New York Times said the war on Syria was “one of the costliest covert action programs in the history of the C.I.A” and “the most expensive efforts to arm and train rebels since the agency’s program arming the mujaheddin in Afghanistan during the 1980s”. Last summer, Biden and his handlers saw their chance to finally finish this Deep State project. That is why they delayed the Gaza cease fire.

Biden’s neo-liberal Zionists party elites thought that their alliance with the leftover Bush neocons, like Liz Cheney, Bill Kristol, John Bolton, and Lincoln Project Republicans, a rehabilitated George Bush, and Zionists controlled mainstream media, would be enough to allow them to overcome the millions of Democrats in their own party that refused to vote for genocide enablers. They thought that their neo-liberal / Zionists / neocon alliance could achieve all of their goals in Gaza, Lebanon and Syria, and they could still win in November. They miscalculated. They gambled everything. They chose genocide, and they lost.

Democrats spent the first two days of their convention chanting ad-nauseam ... "we love Joe ... we love Joe". They were totally unaware how obnoxious that was to millions of Democrats who saw the genocide in Gaza he was enabling?

Do Democrats still "love Joe", now that Joe has cost them the election?

That is why Biden’s neo-liberals delayed the cease fire deal in Gaza for eight months. That is why these criminals thought it was necessary for more Palestinians to die.

And that is why Donald Trump is now President !

For the complete article go here:

https://rambodave.substack.com/p/bidens-neo-liberals-intentionally

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Gary Edwards's avatar

It's all about a class war now that the elitists can not win. They are in the wrong side of that.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

"Dark woke," huh? They really do like to believe they're the cool bad guys, don't they? Dark Brandon, dark woke, How edgy of them!

Well, Democrats are taking postmodernism to its logical conclusion. Since its objective is to convince people that capitalism is the only way and there must never be a popular revolution, the more obvious capitalism's failings and the closer to revolution we come the sillier they get.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

You lose me at "genocide in Gaza." And at least one of your commenters seems to have been put into biological suspension by Dr Mengele at the behest of Dr Goebbels in 1944, something which he announced with his remark about Israel's stealing more land which belongs to Palestine.

In the history of the world there has never been a nation called "Palestine." The Arab powers had had so little interest in the territory that Mark Twain was shocked by the disrepair into which it had fallen when he visited in the late 1860s. What did start to attract Arab settlers to the area in the early twentieth century was something like a proto Israel, composed of Jewish settlers, which had established prospering businesses in need of employees. But to reiterate, there has never been a nation called "Palestine," and anyone who says otherwise can be dismissed as a source of truth.

There is such a moral inversion to writing on the order of "Israeli genocide in Gaza" that it is enraging to anyone who knows the truth and has a conscience. The first Holocaust survivors who came back in after World War II were almost immediately having to fight for the survival of a nation which they had a historic claim to but which the Arab states would not recognize.

Nineteen years elapsed between Israel's establishment in 1948 and its victory in The Six Day War in 1967. That was the achievement of the world's smallest First World nation, but the cliche is true: the Israelis made a desert bloom.

Eighteen years elapsed between Israel's leaving Gaza in 2005 and October 7th, 2023. In those eighteen years, the Gazans managed to create a reverse Israel. Instead of taking what could have been an Arab Singapore and making it so, they brought Hell upon themselves. God knows I am sorry for the honorable Arab people of Gaza who have had to suffer the governance of gangsters, but right and wrong in this war is clear to anyone who hasn't given himself over to moral twistedness.

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BenMedia's avatar

Unhinged Zionist. Palestine was a recognized province of the Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman Empires and was an official mandate of the British Empire. To say that "Palestine didn't exist" shows you don't know any history. And the idea that there were no Palestinians in Palestine is a debunked Zionist lie that even ardent Israeli scholars don't take seriously.

After World War II, Zionist militias committed ethnic cleansing and attack Palestinians villages starting n 1947 and escalating in 1948. In regards to Gaza, since October 7th, Israel has killed half a million Palestinians, including children, destroyed hospitals, schools, churches, mosques, universities and homes, bombed refugees and refugee camps, and we have documentation of mass rape at the hands of Israel as well. We are seeing a new Holocaust right now, and you don't care because the victims are Arab. You are a racist and you know it.

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Old Abe's avatar

Too bad you repeat falsehoods as if you’re an authority. I suppose in part because parroting typical talking points is easier than doing the leg work to really know and understand the history - instead of following a few cherry-picked data points that lack any additional context or nuance. Or in part because you hate Jews? Are you a Muslim fundamentalist? Hard to know or get into your head - except to say that your history and reasoning are both flawed. Your points are simple and misleading at best. Meant solely to support your (erroneous) point of view. Sadly. Too many of you have been brainwashed to lash back and accuse others of being unhinged or repeating talking points when that’s all you’re doing. Shameful. Go live in Gaza, or the West Bank, or Libya, Nigeria, Lebanon, Syria or Iran. Have fun.

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BenMedia's avatar

So, no actual response to anything I said. I do love that Zionists accuse me of being wrong and only parroting talking points (which is projection since that's all you guys do) but never actually explain why I'm wrong. And the reason is because I'm not wrong and nothing I've said is wrong and I can provide resources to back up what I'm saying.

I also love how the only argument Zionists seem to have is to people who oppose Israel of hating Jews, which is funny because A) many Jews actually don't support Israel and B) many Anti-Semites actually do support Israel. It's also funny how you accuse me of being a Muslim Fundamentalists (I'm not, I'm an Atheist) and yet people like you have no problem with Christian or Jewish Fundamentalists, because they just so happen to be white and support Western Imperialism.

You've got nothing and you know it.

And I know it's likely a waste of time to talk to you like the last guy who was racist and an Anti-Semite, but on the very off chance it isn't, here's some actual information for you.

https://goodtimesweb.org/documentation/2012/Noam-Chomsky-Fateful-Triangle.pdf

https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553

https://www.amazon.com/Myths-About-Israel-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1786630192

https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Years-War-Palestine-Colonialism/dp/1250787653

https://www.amazon.com/Question-Palestine-Edward-W-Said/dp/0679739882

https://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Israel-Empire-Richard-Becker/dp/0984122001

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKFPL9JtA3b-TKAVthwayG6xk_7UG6p6p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s

https://law4palestine.org/law-for-palestine-releases-database-with-500-instances-of-israeli-incitement-to-genocide-continuously-updated/

https://aaronpaulagainstgenocide.substack.com/p/how-many-ways-can-israelis-zionists

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

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Old Abe's avatar

You’re on a roll … but now it is clear where your North Star lies. Sadly, Chomsky bases his beliefs regarding Israel on one false narrative after another, and you buy into all of them. As for his critique of capitalism and the libertarian socialism that he champions - well, I’d say that having a belief in human autonomy, dignity, and freedom, and seeking an egalitarian, participatory alternative are all noble, but that runs contrary to fundamentalist Islam, the ideology it spreads and demands, and the theocratic autocracy he’ll-bent on destroying all non-believers. Like you and me. So you can be in search of ideals and bear-hug Chomsky all you want, but it doesn’t fix or even begin to address the death cult that grows all around Israel - funded by Iran. His (and your?) version of idealism doesn’t recognize that Hamas’ fight is not about land but about religion, ideology and an eventual caliphate. It is silent on all of the killing of Christians in Libya, Somalia, Nigeria, the Sudan and elsewhere, and on the slave trade, human trafficking, rape and pillage that is taking place daily in the name of “allah.” And it simply rejects - because of its underlying focus on distrust - all the olive branches (as in, peace deals) that were extended to the Arab world time and time again, because nothing short of complete annihilation of Jews (and as I mentioned before, of all non-believers, which are not my words but their words) is the end game the fundamental Islamists seek. How exactly do you achieve equity when faced with that? When “equity” isn’t even sought by your enemies?

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BenMedia's avatar

First, I'm honestly surprised you're still responding. I'd pretty much forgotten about this and moved on to other things, but apparently you needed to respond.

Second, your response is saying what Chomsky (funny how you only mentioned Chomsky and didn't even address any of the other resources) is promoting a false narrative. But you only say that and don't provide anything else.

Third, most of your response was just unhinged, Islamophobic nonsense to promote racism, white supremacy, imperialism and genocide. So, this will take a minute.

1. There are many Islamic Socialists who derive their Socialism from their Islamic faith. Do these people just not exist in your worldview because they don't agree with your particular interpretation of Islam?

2. I find it very interesting you complain about theocratic autocracy from Muslims. Do you also condemn Christian Fundamentalists trying to build theocratic autocracy in the US?

3. Trying to argue that Israel/Palestine is about religion just shows you don't actually know anything about what's going on.

4. It's interesting that you complain that Islamic Fundamentalism is a threat to Israel and the West, when the United States and Israel have consistently supported Islamic Fundamentalists (specifically Wahhabism) against secular nationalism.

5. The idea that the Arab world has rejected peace deals is blatantly false. Every Arab country (including Iran) and every Palestinian movement (including Hamas) have all said that they are willing to accept a two-state solution along the international 1967 borders. Israel (with the support of the United States) has consistently refused to make peace. Netanyahu is literally on video bragging that he's the reason why the Oslo Accords failed.

6. Everything you've said is just the same old fearmongering that used to justify invasion, occupation, bombing, sanctions, genocide, colonialism, etc.

Fourth, I do love that the logic of Zionists is literally "if you're against genocide against the Palestinians, you must support genocide against the Jews". Apparently, the idea that there just shouldn't be a genocide because genocide is wrong is just a foreign concept in the minds of Zionists.

So, once again (as always), there's no actual response to ANYTHING I said or ANY of the resources I provided and only a bunch of genocide apologia justified with Western bigotry against Muslims.

Oh, and in regards to your Islamophobia, here's some resources for you:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6876432/

https://yaqeeninstitute.org/read/paper/stoning-and-hand-cutting-understanding-the-hudud-and-the-shariah-in-islam

https://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0223/p09s01-coop.html

https://yaqeeninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Honor-Killings-and-Islam.pdf

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Old Abe's avatar

Yes, I am still responding. As for your sources, beyond Chomsky, you seem to read and follow the UN HRC as if its your bible. This, the same UN that is beyond corrupt and an antisemitic organization? They can produce anything that’s fair? The same org that put Iran to chair the HR Forum and had Bashir Assad in a leading role there? The same council that does almost nothing but condemn Israel when atrocities take place around the world (assuming you consider killing, torture, rape, human trafficking and slavery atrocities as I do and most of the world of reasonable people do) and they are silent? The UN is not just a joke but it has been exposed as biased and full of hate against Jews and Israel in such a way that they are blinded by it. Its shameful. And of course your response is that that position is false and/or Zionist or some other stupidity because you are so fully bought in you can’t think rationally. Anyway, then there’s your comment that “ Palestine was a recognized province of the Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman Empires and was an official mandate of the British Empire. To say that "Palestine didn't exist" shows you don't know any history.” Again, this is a common and wacky approach to support your (and anyone’s) belief that Palestinians exist or existed. By your logic, the Jews living in the area at that time were also Palestinians. In which case - this being technically accurate - the Jews and the Arabs were both Palestinians, and therefore singling out only Arabs as being Palestinians is therefore indeed manufactured to build a false narrative and create sympathy and support for the aggressors. And oh, do you deny that, too? You want to make some bullshit argument that Jews stole land? Sure you do - it’s a lie that is among the single biggest and most important pillar of your and others’ arguments of Israeli colonialism. But that has been debunked thousands of times as nothing more than a BIG lie. And then suggesting there are moderate societies of socialist Islamists … hmmm. How is that relevant when the war, torture, rape, terrorism, slavery and more (more bad shit - always bad shit in the name of “Allah”, at least from the perspective of rational humans who care about other humans, which doesn’t appear to the be position you take) is all funded by Iran and the theocratic leadership that has no other intention other than wiping out Israel and establishing a caliphate not just in the Middle East but around the world. As in, the whole world? Oh right, you say that’s fear mongering. Tell that to the parents, children, siblings and best friends of those innocent civilians who have been slaughtered in Israel, Judea, Samaria, Sudan, Darfur, Somalia, Libya, Yemen, Turkey, Iraq, Iran … only because they don’t believe or have the same fundamental ideological approach to Islam as the marauders, funded by Iran, do. Then you try and make a point that Israel doesn’t and didn’t want peace and that all the other regional players did and do want peace - as long as a peace deal subjugated Israel to the 1967 borders. What a simpleton (if not messed up) approach to the process that is! We all know - except you and of course the authors you cite and the morally corrupt UN HRC - that that is a complete canard. It’s not about land, it’s a religious war. Olmert’s offer was over the top generous and was met with intifada. What has been proven time and time again, dating back to the 1948 war of independence but really before that as well, is that there’s no “land” parameter that is sufficient for the Muslim leadership to accept. They only want all of it and death to all Jews and then to all who don’t convert. Full stop. You can make arguments to the contrary but then that would show how that’s all you want, as well. Security means nothing to you - you sit thousands of miles away in your ivory tower. You don’t care that someone else’s neighbor tells the neighbor (the Israeli citizen) they will kill them, and wants to live in the adjoining/abutting home, and beware because at one point they will simply walk next door and kill their sworn enemy - the Israeli neighbor. Nah, what do you care.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

I'm a 73 year old white Southerner. I saw things which you've only read about or seen film of: blacks humiliated. It was evil and I hated it at eight years old. You're as unimpressive as a would be interrogator could be.

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BenMedia's avatar

So, in other words, you’ve got no response to what I said.

Got it.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

As I read over your comments, I am struck by how programmed you seem. You tell me that Palestine has been a province, by which you mean a region, and by saying that, you concede the point: Palestine has never been a nation.

I should ignore you, but the bleating that I am a racist makes me laugh. As Muhammad Ali said to George Foreman after Foreman began to tire ( The Rumble in the Jungle, Zaire, 1974 ), "Is that all you got, George?" As for Israel, you're so ignorant of history that you have never heard of the Israeli airlift of Ethiopia's Jews into Israel, have you? Research that, and come back and tell me that the Israelis are racist.

Jew hatred is demonic, and people who are animated by it end badly.

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BenMedia's avatar

Ignoring the fact that you're dodging my point about Palestine as a known region and province, let's say it isn't a country: so what? Iraq and Syria didn't technically exist as countries until the 1920s. If you're going to use that as an argument to justify the extermination of an entire group of people, you should have no objections to anything happening in Syria or Iraq.

As for the Ethiopian Jews, look up how Ethiopian Jews were actually treated in Israel. It wasn't pretty to say the least.

I also love how your only argument is to accuse me of hating Jews, because you don't actually have anything. I hate Israel because it's an ethnostate built on apartheid, occupation, settler-colonialism and ethnic cleansing and is currently committing genocide against an entire people. I would hate Israel if they were a Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, pagan or secular atheist state and were still doing this. Also, it's just funny that you're making the accusation of hating Jews considering that many Jews actually oppose Israel and many Anti-Semites support Israel.

You're projecting when you accuse me of being programmed and you know it. And yes jackass, you are a racist. You're literally defending white people committing genocide against non-white people.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

I have no response to being called a racist anymore than I would to being called a pterodactyl. I'm curious. How old are you? How did you develop your views? Do you believe the Shoah happened?

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BenMedia's avatar

I'm calling you a racist because you're supporting genocide against the Palestinians simply because they're Palestinians. Honestly, I'm being polite just calling you a racist instead of a genocidal fascist or a Nazi.

I do love how you're only response was to accuse me of being a Holocaust denier. You don't have an argument and you know it. We've both heard the slogan "Never Again", the difference is that I say Never Again means Never Again for ANYONE and you say Never Again means Never Again for one specific group. Hence, why you support a genocide against Palestinians simply because they're Palestinian.

However, I will be incredibly polite and say you're simply ignorant about what's going on, so here's some resources for you.

https://goodtimesweb.org/documentation/2012/Noam-Chomsky-Fateful-Triangle.pdf

https://www.amazon.com/Ethnic-Cleansing-Palestine-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1851685553

https://www.amazon.com/Myths-About-Israel-Ilan-Pappe/dp/1786630192

https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Years-War-Palestine-Colonialism/dp/1250787653

https://www.amazon.com/Question-Palestine-Edward-W-Said/dp/0679739882

https://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Israel-Empire-Richard-Becker/dp/0984122001

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKFPL9JtA3b-TKAVthwayG6xk_7UG6p6p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s

https://law4palestine.org/law-for-palestine-releases-database-with-500-instances-of-israeli-incitement-to-genocide-continuously-updated/

https://aaronpaulagainstgenocide.substack.com/p/how-many-ways-can-israelis-zionists

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Bobby Lime's avatar

Why aren't you furious about Hamas' having placed its military and intelligence infrastructure in civilian areas? You don't see the evil in that?

I wish only the best for Palestinians. My question is why the Jordanians and Egyptians don't? Those two countries could easily accommodate the Palestinian population. Why don't they want them?

The Israelis aren't going anywhere. My own great grandfather had the farm he was to inherit stolen from him by the Union Army's invasion of northern Virginia. His family were like the other 92% of southerners. They didn't own slaves. But because of other people's decisions, after the war, he had to move to southwest Virginia and work in the mines for his livelihood. Disputed territory is the way of things in this fallen world. And no one has attempted a genocide of the Palestinians, and even you, in your skinny little mind, know that.

A big part of what is wrong with your shameful generation is its lack of civility. This is not just a trashing of the commonweal, in many cases, such as yours, it has a lot to do with your being a parrot. Incivility takes people away from thought because the uncivil don't even respect themselves enough to be individual and try to develop their own views.

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Bobby Lime's avatar

My phone is giving me a novel kind of trouble which I don't know how to fix. I would have written more yesterday if it were not. My advice is that you never buy a Pixel 6a except from an Israeli. Because of this glitch I can't see precisely what I've written which has set you off again. It doesn't matter, I suppose. Lee Harvey Oswalds, like dachshunds all being intransigently dachshund, are always Lee Harvey Oswalds, though he did have better manners than you. You know, my constant correspondent, I'm going to miss you when this is over, but we'll always have Substack, mon Cherie.

Let's see. You accused me of cowardice, which made me laugh because of my own history, and you accused me of being insufficiently self denunciatory because I alluded to my experience when I was five. These have two things in common, the first being my instinct to go from the abstract to the personal, the second being your instinct to do the opposite. I understand it. The Devil hates personal examples because he hates people, who are made in the image of God. He loves keeping things abstract because abstractions dull any tendency to moral outrage.

You're not an atheist, of course, because no one actually is. Every moment of our lives should be a well tamed shock that here we are, self aware beings ( something which only God could have jiggered, please note ) who know that we were made by Another. "Atheists" really are the permanent trolls, maintaining long after adolescents are expected to have recovered from their snotty insolence something which they know cannot be true.

Have you ever been through clinical neuropsychological testing? I have, and my skepticism that it was more telling than MRIs of the brain vanished when I read my copy of the results, five pages, single spaced, "the patient this, which is unusual considering that, but which could be accounted for by his surprisingly strong showing here," and on and on and on. I did quarrel with one assertion about me, only a week later to realize that the tester and the doctor had been right.

The Epistles to the Romans, chapter one, verses 18 - 32, explains your distemper as acutely as my neuropsychological testing explained my brain processes. If you have any interest in the saving of your soul ( self awareness, remember, you can't not know that you were made and will answer to Him who made you ), you need to read it. My recommendation is that you then read two New Testament books in order, The Gospel of John and The Acts of the Apostles. I don't care if you don't like the prescription. Your soul, as was true of mine before I became a Christian, and is true of us all who remain unredeemed, is desperately sick.

I hadn't been able to decide whether you were a troll or a true believer, and am answering because I have concluded that you are probably a true believer and that even if you are not, someone else whose foolishness has made him heartsick in ways yours hasn't yet ( for hope is the thing with feathers, the only lame line the woman ever wrote, but the thought does count ), and whom The Holy Spirit may have been preparing for the true liberation, may happen along eventually and read this.

If the Israelis are trying to commit the genocide of Israeli Arabs, they're doing a lamentably incompetent job of it. And really, even you, as brutal and miserable as you are, should have an aesthetic aversion to accusing the Israelis, of all people, of genocide. Or don't you believe the Holocaust happened? I did ask you that, I think, though it may have been some other Jew hating mutant.

I would be shocked if you could find a single reference to a "Palestinian" in any media before the late 1960s. My first hearing the term was when Sirhan killed RFK. It certainly was not a matter at the time of The Six Day War a year earlier. We read and heard about Egyptians, Syrians, and Jordanians massing to overrun Israel, but it wasn't going to be done for the freeing of "Palestinians." I think it may have been George Habash, terrorist and advertising guru, who was the great conjuror of a "Palestinian" people and a captive "Palestinian" land. It was sensationally effective propaganda, and Habash in Hell would probably feel a wan smile stealing across his mouth if he could know its perdurability.

You know there never was a Kingdom of Palestine, and that if you want to refer to a Palestinian people, Israelis have as much right to the name as the Arabs who live there. And while you may want to be an atheist, you understand that no reputable historian denies the history of Israel which is in The Old Testament. Inasmuch as the Jewish people have a claim on the land which precedes any Arab claim by thousands of years, and inasmuch as they're the only residents of it who ever did anything with it, I think they should keep it.

Did I say to you anything which could mark me as a "Christian Zionist?" If I did, I don't recall it. In fact, I am not a "Christian Zionist." I do believe there are tantalizing reasons to think that God intends to revive a believing Israel in that specific land, but the current Israel bears no resemblance to such a thing. I'm pro Israeli because I recognize how much the Devil hates them, that they were attacked on October 7, and that malignancies must be destroyed.

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BenMedia's avatar

Once again, no actual response to anything I said. Just incessant whining about Palestinians and Arabs being bad and leaning back into the religious fanatic angle.

You've really got no argument and deep down, you know it.

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Grant Waldman's avatar

All part of their exposure!!! 🥳🥳🥳

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Redeemed Dissident's avatar

The perpetuation of the false binary / Hegelian dialectic of a "two party" system is a cruel delusion foisted on the masses to keep them entertained, divided, and distracted. DARK MAGA, now orbiting and co-opting itself around the DARK UTOPIAN visions/methods & structures envisioned by Curtis Yarvin (and to some extent, Nick Land), pursues a synthesis of what used to be "traditional" left/right aspirations...both intent on (and as in a relay race where the baton is simply handed off to the next link on the shared journey) actively demolishing the "old" systems, structures & hierarchical mechanisms of "government" -- consolidating power, funding & resources while by passing checks/balances and accountability for an AI/algorithm-driven govenance structure based on privitization of the management of society -- a whole of society oligarchic scientific/technology-based, CEO/Monarch-led technocracy with digital money, digital/biometric identification, consolidation of all data from every source, surveillance at a micro level, and active integration of humankind into a vast mesh network as nodes to receive/transmit information/data -- toleverage bioenergy from the bodies and to harnass the quantum computing power of the gray matter and the DNA, which has magnificent resonance, stability & accessibility for retrofitted activities that can reach beyond mere circuitry & chips alone can do. The singularity is near (they say) and with it, the redistribution / reorganization of the world as digitized, commoditized assets (including natural processes like photosynthesis) to be superintended for maximum efficiency and profit. The war on food,water, air, and the forward momentum to embed AI into every sphere of life are indicative not of a Republic in recovery, but of the dying embers of an empire that has been deemed obsolete and inept -- requiring the intervention (at whatever the cost, including world wars and rezoning of whole continents into "technates" as sub-components of the central governance apparatus (like the UN) to "save us from ourselves" and to corral humankind into manageable C-40/SMART/"Freedom" cities where the hive mind and confined living can be more easily accomplished and stewarded for sustainable purposes and the advance of the transhuman wet dream of hybrid humanoids -- digital citizens whose digital twins are already being trained on the data gathered about each of us for running what if scenarios and projecting the means needed to herd those humans deemed worthy of surviving into the matrix (full blown - we're in a version of it now) versus being culled to feed their myth of "scarcity" and the need to redistribute everything "equitably." There is no "party" to fee to. Its up to individual people to refuse to conform or comply - to resist the encroaching "reset" that is upon us wearing Red Hats and making a small, but pitiful attempt to look "democratic" in the issuance of some 100+ E.O.'s and the selective elimination of Fed Agencies/personnel as well as the migration of the monetary system to a digital, privatized system that will prevent any and all government scrutiny or powers of intervention and management (by design) and further the already horrendous transfer of wealth that has been accomplished over the last many decades. Our hope is not in the things of this world -- as it is RAPIDLY passing away (unless you relish the China model for being constantly monitored, punitively prevented from living, eating, traveling, or being being able to access services, etc., unless you behave, under their constant scrutiny, like a "model" citizen and never resist or refrain from readily complying. The "Dems" (so-called) played their parts, now the actors on the political stage are playing theirs (same goal, different "flavor" / approach)-- it's already scripted, directed and executed to accomplish its intended objectives and to suppress

the notion of ever seeing the defeat of those who have conspired (for hundreds of years) to witness the demise of nation states and the rise of the technocratic state over all.

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Misgnomer's avatar

The Democratic Party continues to be yet another tendril of Capital. And in other news, the sky is blue.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

Hogg capitalized on a tragedy that didn’t even affect him to become Vice Chair of the DNC, to destroy the party, and likely result in a Democrat race war.

https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/david-hogg-versus-the-congressional

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