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Joseph L. Wiess's avatar

We saw video proof of women being pulled out of cars with torn clothes and blood running down their legs. I guess that wasn't rape. I call BS on this.

We all know there were rapes, that's why they picked the concert venue to attack. Otherwise, they would have attacked military targets.

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Fact: The rave location wasn't revealled by the organizers until late on Friday October 6th. Even the DJ didn't know so, how exactly do you think a bunch of Hamas terrorists found out?

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SFVC's avatar

What? What is your point? Are you claiming that people hunting for Israelis while flying in paragliders COULD NEVER POSSIBLY spot thousands of people camping at an outdoor music festival? You are telling people to not believe our lying eyes? To forget all the videos and photos of HUNDREDS OF ABANDONED, burned out cars, of numerous cellphone videos of terrified young prople fleeing madly? You are ridiculously ignorant, insane or evil, take your pick.

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chicano Angeles's avatar

most of tv is staged. especially war propaganda

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XxYwise's avatar

No blood running down anyone’s leg. And whoever was repeating Allahu Ackbar wasn’t from the Levant.

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

“Proves beyond a reasonable doubt”? The only reasonable doubt I have is in your sanity.

Those Hamas murderers - the ones joyously slaughtering civilians (yeah, them) - they’d never dare violate an Israeli woman. It’s against a tenet of their faith. Brutally murder them? Yeah. Behead? Burn? Shoot? Stab? Yep, uh-huh, sure. But rape (!)? Perish the thought.

Good thing sharp people are in the lookout for this kind of thing. You might otherwise come away with the impression that Hamas is a cadre of bloodthirsty sadistic religio-fanatic barbarians. That would get Israel off the hook for defending itself, and we can’t have that

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BenMedia's avatar

You're a liar.

There were no beheadings and most of the people killed were either killed in the crossfire or killed by Israel implementing the Hannibal Directive.

You are a Zionist troll who's lying and promoting a hoax to justify a genocide.

Go fuck yourself.

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

I didn’t even get through half of one of the silly articles relied upon by BenMedia to find howlers

Like these:

She adds that “after we were there for two hours with the abductors, the police arrive. A gun battle takes place that our police started.”

[ed. “That our Police started”. ‘Nuff said]

But wait! There’s more:

“This includes the shocking revelation that some Israeli civilians were alive for up to two days before Israeli forces killed them, along with Palestinian fighters who were holding them.”

[“along with the Palestinian fighters

Holding them”. I wonder who the targets were? I just can’t figure that out - those kindly Palestinian fighters must have been awfully

Surprised at their treatment!]

OR-

“one of the Palestinian fighters, a commander, decided to surrender and used her in effect as a human shield.”

[file that under profiles in courage, the poor guy just wanted to surrender, with a female civilian to take the bullets in the event that his peaceful intent wasn’t grasped fully by the Israeli tormentors]

OR-

The terrorists shot them?” Golan asks.

“No, they were killed by the crossfire,” Porat responds. “Understand there was very, very heavy crossfire.”

[No shit. Very very heavy crossfire. And it’s Israel’s fault, obviously!

It’s a huge scandal that the IDF responded with force to the Palestinian’s sightseeing stroll

Into Israel. Why didn’t they convene a committee to try and discuss the Palestinians’ grievances? Like I said, scandalous!

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen such stupidity printed. And the conclusions drawn therefrom are even dumber, by magnitudes.

I am grateful the sources were cited, however, so that we could see how fairly straight-forward situations and facts can be mangled and

misunderstood by the ideologue.

It’s like a bottomless chasm. I wouldn’t wait around to see if they come to their senses . . .

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BenMedia's avatar

Just for the record, one of my sources was a prominent Israeli newspaper.

Funny how you don't mention that (because it proves you're full of shit).

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BenMedia's avatar

Translation: "I'm going to ignore what you cited because they prove I'm full of shit"

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BenMedia's avatar

I'm not wrong.

You're just a liar

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ray the efless's avatar

I think ben is confusing larping with reality

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ray the efless's avatar

Ben

Your sources are garbage.

I'm sure I can find plenty of sources that deny the moon landing, the holocaust, and claim the earth is flat. Just because it's printed or on the internet doesn't make it so. This is fun but it's getting a little exhausting. Have fun in fantasyland

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

A bunch of words are there, but they are arranged in a way that doesn’t evidence any form of intelligent life. I mean, I’m the first to give stupidity its due, but this from BenMedia? I’m incredulous that this came from an actual

Person, - there’s just no way. I’ll proceed on the assumption that it’s a bot, because to allow otherwise is to concede that people exist out there who live in a world so twisted and insular that this gibberish constitutes reality they are beyond reason, and therefore beyond rescue.

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

Doesn’t matter to me one iota that it was an Israeli paper - it obviously was. What is astounding is the level of self-deception by Israelis cited in it. No doubt civilians were killed in the IDF response - the fog of war being what it is, which hasn’t changed for millenia. (quick note - Hamas is responsible for that, as

Well, since they were the aggressors that got

This whole sorry train going).

And with respect to ignoring your sources, I did quite the opposite. I cited them directly, word for word. I don’t think that qualifies as ignoring them, even on the strange planet you’re apparently from. What I did do was point out some things that don’t make Any sense, even if uttered by an Israeli. And, incidentally, the conclusions you reach don’t follow from

The material cited Sure, they echo the bias of the paper and the idiot who wrote the

Article, but the facts cited in the paper - their very own words - run counter to any sensible assessment of the situation in the ground and the IDF response.

I’m not trying to convince YOU of anything - I

Don’t think that’s possible, given what anyone reading this thread has witnessed and surely appreciates. Rather, I felt compelled to speak up

Simply because stupidity of the depth and extent you continue to exhibit just has to be put down., and this is the rough equivalent of the town square where I can, at minimum, subject you to even a tiny portion of the ridicule you so richly deserve.

Other readers can judge for themselves where the truth lies. But you - you are the last person

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Salvatore Monella's avatar

About whom I give a flying fuck what you think

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Christy H Carter's avatar

Well said.

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Trevor Hall's avatar

Because they were all murdered, wtf? Damn hamas to hell, is this actually a defense of 10/7? Why would anyone defend anything that happened that day?

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Donald Obama's avatar

Because of what Israel did for decades before (which was worse) and what Israel has done since then (which is also worse).

Israel is a terrorist, genocide committing state.

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BenMedia's avatar

Why are you lying and promoting a hoax?

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Lawrence Ramsay's avatar

Could it possibly be because after raping them they murdered them? Released hostages all report mass rapes and continuing sex assault in captivity.

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BenMedia's avatar

Why are you lying and promoting a hoax?

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Christy H Carter's avatar

And I say the same to you @BenMedia.

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BenMedia's avatar

So...you're projecting

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Tedder130's avatar

The 'beheaded babies' was also revealed as a hoax, and while I am sure that some civilians might have been murdered by Palestinians on their jail break, we know that in the kibbutz were 'armed settlers' (former IOF) that are not different from soldiers, but mainly, we know that the IOF murdered hundreds of Israeli civilians to prevent them from being taken hostage (Hannibal Directive). All in all, a concerted psyop put in place to 1) distract from the embarrassment of IOF failures; and 2) to justify the massacre of Palestinians in the latest round of ethnic cleansing, this time colored by genocide.

The power of this rape story psyop was huge, and it makes me wonder why the Ukrainian fascists have not accused the Russians of 'mass rape'.

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marko85's avatar

Thankfully, no one can pull the wool over your eyes. Thanks for being so smart and keeping the rest of us sheep safe. #Hero

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Christy H Carter's avatar

Hahahahaha Good response.

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Emmanuel Goldstein's avatar

This Substack of yours and The Grayzone are probably some of the best alternative left-wing muckraking sources I've come across (and I say this as someone of a "conservative" ideological orientation -- us genuine investigators left and right need to stay diligent and not be divided by this world's tactics of sowing schism).

Simply put, thank you for helping shed and shine some light in this world darkened by the smoke of the bottomless pit's psyops. This reminds me, I saw your podcast with Indie; will have to check it out soon. :)

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mois78's avatar

Everything the government and the media is a lie.

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Christine Axsmith's avatar

So the photo of women being forced into a car with blood stains on the seat of their pants was fake?

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Just as "fake" as the hundreds of murdered Palestinian health care workers, doctors and journalists l suppose.

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blackdog1955's avatar

Let's just kill all of them and be done with it.

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BenMedia's avatar

Israel has lied about everything on October 7th and since.

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rick cosca's avatar

Benjamin Fulford claims that Netanyahu should and will be arrested

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BenMedia's avatar

Yes they have.

It's not my fault you don't know anything

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

Can you believe it. This Dissiden??? It's like saying , PRESIDENT TRUMP is a felon because he was tried by a New York court, under a New York Judge with the help of the Obama DOJ...Yep. We all believe that don't we?

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

Trump might have avoided taking money from AIPAC but, do you think accepting $100 million from Miriam Adelson (widow of former Netenyahu's friend, Sheldon) is not just as corrupt? Could he not get by on the $75 million from Elon Musk?

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Ernie Boxall's avatar

Don't know? Could the uni party have beat him in 2020 without Soros, zuckerfuxx, bezos, the fbi, doj, cia, washington compost and new york slime? How about you're basta*rd judges, da's and big fanny willis?

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BenMedia's avatar

Zionists in the comments section are coming out to lie in order to promote their hoax and justify the genocide.

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Sufeitzy's avatar

I do t know why this crap comes in my list, but the deluded antisemitic author can’t read or understand their own citation apparently:

“Gaz explains that the biggest challenge is evidentiary. Linking specific crimes to specific defendants in dozens of scenes, with hundreds of suspects and thousands of crimes, is nearly impossible. “Regular evidentiary rules don’t suit this event. There are no orderly chains of exhibits, and no one recorded the videos you want to present in court…”

The difficulty of proof mentioned is the same with many war crimes, not that the crime is a fiction, but rather that it happens to so many people simultaneously with so many perpetrators that linking any single perpetrator to any single victim is challenging in details required for evidentiary proof and chain of evidence preparation.

No intelligent person can claim this is evidence that mass rape didn’t happen - that it didn’t happen because it’s hard to bring to trial. The crime clearly happened, there were thousands of witnesses. The difficulty (clearly stated) is identifying and linking one specific rapist with one specific person, for one specific crime event. That’s the way many trials work, if the sensationalist author managed to never see an American crime procedural with trial, broadcast several times weekly for the last 80 years.

Following this logic, nobody lynched Emmett Till in 1955 although his mutilated body exists, it was prepped by his mother for media consumption, and nobody was brought to justice because no crime was committed.

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Christy H Carter's avatar

Well said.

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BenMedia's avatar

Pro-genocide Zionist troll

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Sufeitzy's avatar

Go for it!

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BenMedia's avatar

Well, at least you're honest about being pro-genocide, I guess

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Sufeitzy's avatar

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BenMedia's avatar

Uh...thanks?

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Donald Obama's avatar

If there were thousands of witnesses why haven't any of them come forward?

Even if they cannot pin the crime on a specific person, they should be able to come forward and say when and where they saw the rape happen. But they can't.

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Shelley Chadwick's avatar

The 7/10 claims of rape, an aborted fetus, beheadings, babies in ovens and mass killings were repeats of the 1947/8 atrociies perpetrated by Jews against Palestinian villages actually.

The Zionists knew beforehand the indigenous people would not simply leave voluntarily and they would try and defend their families, homes and villages they had to attack with such brutality, and instil such fear as to make the people run away.

Professor Ilan Pappe and other Middle East historians have spoken/written about the Nekbah at length. Former Israeli settlers gave interviews admitting their actions on film but, evaded prosecution. This may explain why IDF soldiers and prison wardens can post horrific Tic Toc videos of rape and torture because they know they'll never face justice.

To perpetuate their lies, it's far easier to murder journalists and medical personnel and call everyone else Hamas terrorists and Anti-Semites/Racists. Rather than Israel agreeing to a peace deal or negotiating a two-state solution, Mossad/CIA simply kill the Negotiators.

Israelis are not the victims.

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Mike Williams's avatar

Funny you say that Israel won't negotiate a 2 state solution. From all the historical documentation since 1948 only one side agreed to a 2 state solution. Ask Bill Clinton what he thought about that when the opportunity arose for him to broker a deal and how that panned out with your great mate Yasser Arafat. But now you are absolutely 100%correct, the Israelis have realised, finally, that a 2 state solution can NEVER be reached because like Hamas's charter, the only solution advocated by Palestinians (and people like yourself) even now with their arses getting kicked ( not genocide because that is leftist propaganda trolling specific to this conflict whereas like for instance Syria and Yemen wars with close to nearly a million people killed but no uproar from lefty's anywhere because Muslims killing Muslims, who gives a shit but as soon as The Jews are fighting back, it's a genocide!) is to them and always will be, a Single state solution run by Arab Muslims for Arab Muslims and all the Jews and Istaelis need to die or fuck off.

There will never be an end to this war because Palestinians and many Arabs (Muslims) hate the Jews. They are totally anti semites and to hell with the oh, we're just anti Zionist crap because that's just semantics. End of story and proof of this remains in the Hamas charter because they call and advocate for the murder of all Jews worldwide, all 15 million of them.

But it doesn't matter 1 little bit what I write, what you write or anyone else for that matter, we won't make the slightest bit of difference to this conflict. The Israelis and Palestinians will just keep going. There is no end to it unless someone nukes Tel Aviv but the irony is, it will kill all the Palestinians too. No more problem then, ay?

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Donald Obama's avatar

Um Mike. Maybe you missed the hundreds of billions of dollars that the U.S has sent to Israel? The anti-BDS laws? The UN vetoes? History has shown how to handle apartheid states like Israel - the U.S is blocking that from happening and fully enabling a horrific genocide.

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BeyondJoe's avatar

As journalist Matti Friedman said: “It’s a real comment on Western self-awareness that numerous intellectuals have come to hate the same people as their grandparents did, and seem to earnestly believe it’s a coincidence.”

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Donald Obama's avatar

Oh those poor Israeli victims, mass murdering women and children for over a year. That takes courage.

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Howard Hart's avatar

Your cherry-picking of quotes to use out of context is what, I suppose, passes for journalism these days. True, murdered rape victims are unable to testify, and Jewish burial laws render most physical evidence unavailable. However, numerous eye-witness accounts of rape exist. The activist journalist's distortion and diminution of these women's suffering is simply another leftist blood libel among another long list of blood libels. And that is why even good journalists enjoy such little respect.

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BenMedia's avatar

Pro-genocide Zionist troll

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Christy H Carter's avatar

You must have set your AI to “repeat.”

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BenMedia's avatar

You're just mad you got called out

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Donald Obama's avatar

Even if rapes happened, it doesn't justify what Israel has done since then. Among other things, the Israelis were regularly raping Palestinian hostages.

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Christy H Carter's avatar

Well said.

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chicano Angeles's avatar

perhaps further research should be done on why "Hamas" was allowed by the spy and surveillance capital of the world to enter their perimeter undetected!!! outrageous that they were "caught by surprise". false flag reeks of this oct 7 "event" or "extended cosplay hangout"....

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Jules Powellhi's avatar

This is just a cover up! There wouldn’t be any footage to show it was being done! The author of this is absolutely full of it all!

I believe the personal testimonies of all the women!

This group is lying to say that the women were lying instead! No way !!

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