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Elsie E Connelly's avatar

Where were they?

MOST LIKELY. BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. COUNTING. THEIR. ILL-GOTTEN GAINS

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Kelly Green's avatar

You forgot one part - not only could they have negotiated a settlement before the war, it would have been a much better outcome in terms of not only lives but territory. They lost Mariupol and the land bridge area, which they could have otherwise maintained. Putin was very happy to denude Mariupol of its population so that it looks like post-WW II Konigsberg, wiped from the map in terms of its prior existence, and backfilled with ethnic Russians.

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MondoinPhx's avatar

Absolutely correct assessment. The US’s big mistake was in not either including the Russian Federation into the NATO Alliance after the voluntary deconstruction of the USSR or dissolving it altogether as a pointless endeavor. The MIC and the political hacks that dream of profits and global hegemony will regret their shortsightedness in the end. My prediction: There will NOT BE A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT IN UKRAINE, the Russian Federation will no longer tolerate threats to its security from an obviously hostile West and WILL dictate the terms under which hostilities end as per President Putin’s previous statements or Ukraine will cease to exist as an independent state.

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BenMedia's avatar

The Soviet Union actually wasn't voluntarily deconstructed. A few months prior to its dissolution, a referendum was held on whether to keep the Soviet Union together and three quarters of the people voted that the Soviet Union should remain together with some reforms. The country was illegally dissolved by a Capitalist, Anti-Communist, pro-Western faction that had gained power.

As for your prediction, it's certainly plausible. I personally think it's more likely that Russia will formally annex Crimea, the Donbass and Eastern Ukraine and install a more friendly government in Kyiv. Ultimately, we'll have to wait and see what happens next.

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BenMedia's avatar

The proxy war in Ukraine wasn't a failure or a defeat.

Arms manufacturers, defense contractors and fossil fuel companies made a profit off the war.

Wall Street will make a profit off rebuilding Ukraine.

Europe has now been pushed into the arms of the American Empire and NATO.

And with Russia being pushed closer to China and the emergence of an international, anti-Western bloc, the West now has an excuse to continue with its aggression all over the world and build a new Cold War.

The proxy war in Ukraine was a tremendous success.

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Beth Haven's avatar

Money laundering and the almighty war machine IMO

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Pym of Nantucket's avatar

There will be consequences. Russia will now exploit our foolishness. Putin, the 6 trillion dollar man and Russia is better, stronger and faster.

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Timothy G McKenna's avatar

Well, as long as he doesn't have T-80s rolling up the Squam Road from Quidnet, attacking Wauwinet, all will be well in the garden... :-D

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WJM's avatar

“Criminal aggression”? I think not.

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David Winterflood's avatar

Absolutely correct. This is a shocking tale and result. It would never have happened if DJT’s second term was not stolen. Now he has to come in and clean up the mess. The sooner the better. The Puppet Government should be replaced by the next legitimate Government. ASAP. No time to wait for formalities. Peace Accord Now ! Not in January. All our lives are at stake and depend upon it. Fast Track Please. No more appeasing.

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BenMedia's avatar

First, the 2020 election wasn't stolen. This was just something Trumpists came up with to complain about Trump losing. The reason he lost was because of Covid.

Second, I really don't buy the idea that Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president. After all, Trump was actually incredibly hawkish towards Russia including sending weapons to Ukraine.

Third, Trump is putting anti-Russia hawks in his cabinet.

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Gary Anderson's avatar

I fail to understand why Americans want Putin gone and an unknown hardliner in his place. His record is fairly stable if cruel and merciless.

Do not American presidents assassinate their enemies?

I’m hoping Putin rules Russia for another 25 years or more.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Your session obvious Vladimir Fluffer boy. Legitimate journalist use their name.

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Hudson E Baldwin lll's avatar

Great idea, as long as Ukraine gets to creep all of it annexed land including Crimea. Otherwise we should've waxed Putin and his little Cabal long ago

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Fredo's avatar

Like, where were they two months ago. This is why you can’t despise the elites enough. Despise and never trust them then pay more attention to what your reps do in congress then change your voting accordingly.

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Maggie's avatar

Biden controlled the media, now they are trying to appease the population

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vpfund's avatar

Is there any form of violent death not aggressive enough for dispatching Victoria Nuland? The amount of unneeded death that follows this neocon demon is staggering.

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Hachemi Hadjoudj's avatar

Clear and simple! A crime that will have benefited only the military-industrial complex and the rapacious predators greedy for power. The worst thing is that the leaders, not content with sowing tears and destruction, are engaging in warlike escalations that risk leading to a final explosion...

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

War is a racket, and also act as diversions from the "warp speed" democide. There are many morons guilty of premeditated murder, who will soon go to hell for eternity.

The morons can do it again and again, until good people wake up and smell the coffee. https://odysee.com/@valsamverkan:3/Wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee,-dear-Covidians!---The-people,-you-fucked-in-the-ass,-might-be-coming-for-you-very-soon:5

So, do not blame the morons! Look yourself in the mirror and ask what you want to do for yourself, your family and friends, and for the future generations!

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Dennis's avatar

Anybody who professes the 'stolen' election can't be taken seriously on other matters. What other conspiracy theories do you like?

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BenMedia's avatar

When did The Dissident ever claim that the election was stolen?

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Dennis's avatar

No no my comment was against David Winterflood comment who claimed 2020 election was stolen. We cool.

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dan brandt's avatar

Except it was stolen. Trump was right on the premise, just picked the wrong details

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BenMedia's avatar

I don't think you can really argue the election was "stolen" since Trump won.

Unless you just have a weird kink for claiming things are rigged against you.

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dan brandt's avatar

I was referring to the 2020 election.

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BenMedia's avatar

Which also wasn't stolen.

Trump lost because of Covid.

The whole "the election was stolen" thing was made-up in order for Trump supporters to throw a tantrum over him losing.

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dan brandt's avatar

Fact, a poll was taken asking those who voted fort biden, had they known about the hunter laptop story would that have changed their vote? 7% said yes. biden won by 3%. Regardless, if you don't believe that 51 former intelligence officials signing a document most knew to be false, didn't alter the vote, I believe there is nothing you would believe in. We could also point to the bogus impeachments. But it is all irrelevant. All those things counted this time because the left overplayed it's hand again and made Trump into a martyr. The left created Trump, the left kept Trump in front of the populace for the last four years. The left made Trump into a martyr.

But I realize, trying to convince a partisan of something they don't want to believe in, the truth, is a waste of time. which is actually great. If you don't know the truth about how the dumb bested the intelligent, you won't know it in four years either. You'll be no better off and lose again. That is providing the Republicans don't self implode again within fighting and screw up a good deal. Any partisan postings are about as worthless as partisan voters. Not to be mean. But independents determine elections. You folks haven't discovered that one yet either. As your tent grows smaller and smaller.

And I am not a Trump supporter. Dropped the Repubs when Limbaugh was still around. And that is another of the flaws partisans have. There is a lot more important things out there than the two parties and their if you aren't with me you are against me. Look at the actions not the person. Civil and moral have never won an armed conflict. Provable fact.

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BenMedia's avatar

Quite a few things to respond to here:

First, I'm very curious about what you mean by "the Left". Because the Left (meaning Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, Anti-Imperialists, Anti-Capitalists, etc.) has zero institutional power. Unless you define "the Left" as simply anything you don't like.

Second, I do love that your evidence that the election was stolen was the Hunter Biden laptop (which I don't even disagree with you on by the way), when Trump and MAGA claim it was because of mass fraud (which has long since been discredited).

Third, the rest of your "response" was a rant about how Democrats don't understand the common people, even though I'm not a Democrat and I agree with you on that. I actually hate the Democrats more than you do because I hate them for what they actually are and what they actually do, not something that was invented in conspiracy theory land. And I love how you made a whole bunch of assumptions about me and my ideology (which were wrong) simply because I pointed out the election wasn't really stolen. Biden won in 2020, just like Trump won in 2016 and 2024. Get over it. Also, I don't believe you when you say you aren't a Trump supporter.

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