I don’t have a problem with deporting foreigners. Holding a Visa isn’t the same as being a US citizen. Should be coming here for politics. Foreigners come here and immediately start protesting. Hmm no.
The government is prohibited from making laws to regulate speech. The Framers thought this was important because they’d known first-hand of people thrown in jail by an out-of-control king, and wanted to nip that in the bud.
It doesn’t matter whose speech or what kind of speech, except for very narrow exceptions. Not the kind of exceptions that the Framers thought it wise to leave to the whim of an Executive.
Those in question are legally in the US. They were admitted by an application process that ended with their approval for residency,, either temporary or permanent. They are not here at the whim of some government official who can wag his little finger and make that status vanish.
Their status may change if they commit crimes, but speech is not a crime, whether it's correct or incorrect speech, whether what is said is smart or stupid, whether it's pleasant or offensive.
Free speech means free speech for everyone, not just people I like saying things I agree with. It includes the right of Nazis to march through a community where a lot of Holocaust survivors lived (Skokie, IL), offensive as that march was to those residents.
If you don't believe that speech you dislike is permitted, then you don't believe in free speech.
Kindly be specific as to what "policy outside the law" you are talking about for anyone involved in these speech issues recently. Is obtaining a visa to attend school in the USA a "policy outside the law?" Is being granted a green card, which shows that one has gone through the application process to be granted permanent resident status and has met the requirements, a "policy outside the law?"
What policy are you talking about? Or are you, as they say back home, "just talking to hear your head roar?"
When Obama was droning American Citizens, no one seemed to have a problem, but deporting anti American & terrorist supporting Palestinians has got Jew Haters in a tizzy!
Nothing in your comment changes the fact that students here on valid visas still have free speech rights.
And I am skeptical of your conflation of those protesting the slaughter in Gaza as "terrorist supporting Palestinians." Many protests were actually organized by Jewish students, and many of those who support their efforts are not "Jew Haters."
And our Constitution protects the rights of her Citizens. Or it was supposed to. Clearly first and second and fourth are regularly infringed upon. Especially the second amendment.
For what? Protesting a foreign country? You let that bag of shit Israel dictate to AMERICA what we can say about that Nazi country? Are you fucking high?
If they commit a deportable crime, sure. After a trial with due process, and, of course, a *conviction*.
The U.S. Constitution doesn't guarantee you freedom from becoming emotionally upset by people speaking their minds. It doesn't matter whether they speak the truth or only lies, whether they're smart or stupid, whether or not they even make any sense. Speech is protected, with a few very specific exceptions.
Hooyah! It is the most confrontational and objective speech that requires the most protection.
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I remember being raised on the old adage, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.”
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First Amendment Trumps everyone’s feelings….rightly and wisely so.
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Any speech, all speech, loving, hating, threatening. A threat is a warning, we should all be fortunate to have warnings.
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If you disagree, you either have not invested time on the thought and many thoughts….and refrain from meditation and simply thinking for the sake of thought and working through arguments informed and intelligently.
Oh, they have rights…as rights are granted by God. Just not a right to enjoy them anywhere that they like. They must enjoy their rights in their respective countries if they are not welcome in our country.
Te Reagan, although you mean well, you are allowing their wizardry words to deceive you. It’s not going to stop with foreigners, you are not getting that. You are saying to yourself that will never happen. It will. Time to realize things are going to get bad for everyone. And no, you are not a member of the special club regardless of your USA citizenship. That tyrannical wave is coming. With the deportation of people in such brutal ways… the American people are being groomed to accept harsh rule.
See, I watched the leftist practice cancel culture. I watched them go crazy stomping on freedom of speech. A visa holder is not the same. It should be a privilege to attend school here in our country. These students have no business going political. None what so ever.
And I do get where you’re coming from. It’s sounds good. But, no. We are tired of this nonsense. Are they being educated? Or are they here to protest our government? Which is it?
Not all leftists, not by any means. Maybe those who had power in the media, maybe those who called themselves leftists but were only Democratic Party apparachiks (or wannabes). Those who may remember having actual principles but threw them down the sewer when challenged by circumstances. I was what they call "Too Left For Obama," and I thought all that cancel stuff was beyond stupid.
The U.S. Constitution doesn't declare rights for citizens, it just declares rights. Or more correctly, it limits the power of the government to take them away, and it limits that power irrespective of citizenship or immigration status.
There are lots of things in the world as it is that I'm extremely damn well tired of. But that doesn't mean it's simple to make those things go away without creating worse problems. The Constitution was written by men who had very recent experience with government (royal) tyranny. They were extremely tired of *that* nonsense.
In actuality, the Constitution doesn't apply to "citizens," nor does it even apply to "people." It applies to the government. It tells the government what it can and can't do (the body tells the government what it can do, and the Bill of Rights tells it what it can't do).
While what is said above is legally true, in reality, non-citizen's rights are NOT protected by the US Constitution. The government cannot completely remove the right of aliens to keep and bear arms, have freedom of expression, etc, but it can greatly restrict those rights almost to the point where they are non-existent. This just goes to show that the interpretation of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights is really completely arbitary on the part of the government.
It’s just so tiring that we can’t elevate the bewildered herds perspective above team blue/ team red nonsense.
Globocap doesn’t give a rats ass about your sovereignty or your rights. Control and cull the flock using one psyop after another. The plague compliance made for great comfort in the halls of the overlords.
In the end, any argument comes to digital. On or off, good or bad, yes or no.
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We have two parties in the end, because it is in the end the most basic argument.
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We are not a two party system, we are a multi party system.
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In the end we end up with two parties as the predominant choice.
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However parties can be internally subverted or replaced.
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With free speech the competition of ideas is possible.
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These ideas and the parties associated with them can either displace a party(s), have direct affect on a party(s), or lead to a party’s subversion.
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We are not truly a two party system.
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We simply choose alignments in the end of either/or.
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Both Democrats and Republican parties have been subverted over time through outside and inside influence of alternative parties and the popular opinions that they may display.
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The Tea Party attempted to replace the Republicans party.
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However, the Tea Party arose as an explosive threat to both parties.
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As such, both parties conspiratorially attacked the Tea Party using even the IRS, intelligence and Law Enforcement to attack them.
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So, many Tea Party affiliated politicians eventually joined the Republicans party.
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This Tea Party ideology was implanted into the Republican party and whether subversively or overtly and most likely both methodologies have had great affect/effect.
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The Republican Party continues to be covertly and overtly pressured to change to an America First agenda/ideology…
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My point is that we are not a two party system, that is incorrect as my attempt to illustrate.
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Despite the disparaging remarks of the most intelligent citizens in this thread amongst us.
Would argue they are simply following long established law out of necessity.
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If you want to reform immigration, reform it….until then follow the established law and do it well. This is a fundamental purpose of the Federal Government, the Federal Government should be flawless at its few primary tasks.
Everyone on US soil is entitled to the same rights, regardless of status, that's in the Constitution. Holding a visa entitles them to all the same rights as US citizens but voting
However, the protections of the USA and its Constitution are for the Citizens of that Constitution, not the world.
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If one wants to be afforded protections of their God given rights under the U.S. constitution they must be awarded citizenship in a proper and legal fashion.
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The U.S. Constitution is a document owned by the citizen to limit government!
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We, the citizens of this REPUBLIC demand that people foreign to this country apply for access truthfully and lawfully.
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What your interpretation suggests is chaos, unmanageable and an eventually failing proposition.
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It is akin to saying that I have a right to reside in your home, eat your food and use your resources as a right.
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Think longer and harder on this if your mind is capable.
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Yes, that is a slight, but it could also be a simple truth…I am not sure.
Too many people are still completely oblivious of the slippery slope of the concept “rights for me but not for thee”. They foolishly agree with it when they are part of me and those they despise are part of thee and don’t realize that it won’t always be the case. Once the Constitution principles get undermined and the existence of a “me group” and a “thee group” becomes commonly accepted, those that are fine with it today, are deluding themselves that they will always be part of the first group, while in reality they do not have the slightest idea of who will define the two groups 1 year, 5 years, or 10 years from now.
Principles are universal or they do not exist because those in power will always reshape any exception to suit their convenience.
Unfortunately, it seems that as a society we don’t give a damn about principles anymore. The lady who was complaining about cancel culture did not care about freedom of speech, only about who was impacted. Her demand that foreigners coming to the US be muzzled and do not protest “our government”, which at a first might appear to invoke the model of North Korea for the US, is actually worse than that, because there is no doubt that the actual targets are only those foreigners protesting in favor of causes she disagrees with, like Palestine, and against the Trump government.
I’d bet my house she has no problems with those who not just protested but violently attacked the previous government. Should they be deported to El Salvador or as long as they are US citizens and the administration is from the other color, is it acceptable?
The end of a democracy is irreversible when citizens lose the notion of principles and start seeing them as privileges, afforded to a group only. A group of which they delusionally believe to be permanent members
USA, a land of citizens whose rights are enumerated in their constitution.
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Citizens of other countries are free to exercise their God given rights in their country…and make changes to their government to support and guarantee those rights.
The Constitution says everyone on US soil. It says "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
NO THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS US CITIZENS! Not even green card holds. Just wave goodby as the door hits them in the ass going home, I repeat, going home.
Either there was a process for admitting them, or they broke in. Either way, since we are the status-quo, law-wielding power (i.e., “the house”), it’s right, proper, and powerful for us to have a process for deporting them, if that’s what needs to happen. We don’t give up power by doing that, we assert our power.
We aren’t just another gang of thugs or warlords. I suppose maybe you disagree, but for now, and for all of my life, we’ve been the house, not just another bettor at the table. We’ve done plenty of ugly stuff, but it’s a different kind of ugly when you have a monopoly on violence, which we do, at least for now, unless we fritter it away by acting like punks.
It’s not deport… It’s human trafficking! If there is no court hearing, no due process and no judgment, it is not deportation. It’s human trafficking.
And if you hold a visa, citizenship, a residency permit, a green card, HB1, etc: you have the legal right to be in the United States. And if you are being kicked out of the country without due process, you are being trafficked.
Due process is a limit on the ability of the government to act tyrannically. To withdraw that welcome requires due process not because of the individual's entitlement to anything, but because those who wrote the Constitution had experienced tyranny under the British and wanted to guard against it here.
Deporting non citizens protesting on US campuses is a great idea. These “students” came here to get an education so why in the heck are they spending all their efforts protesting. If my children were attending a foreign university and were protesting on campus I would be furious and would tell them to come home or study. Moreover, these protests ultimately will have zero impact upon the cause they are protesting.
Another intelligent response from a lunatic liberal. There are a lot of you around and it’s scary since you are the ones who commit violent acts and call it protesting.
These are not just non citizens these are students who are occupying a slot at a university that others were denied. It’s a privilege for them to be here and our duty to deport them if they are not being respectful. They are guests in our country and need to show respect and manners and protesting what is happening in the Middle East does not do that. They are also protesting something not related to our country and nothing of what they are doing is going to make a hill of beans difference. But they are impacting the lives of all the other students on campus that are there to get an education. Do you think this is right? If these foreign protesters are so committed to their cause then they should go fight for it somewhere where it will make a difference like over there.
I am not denying their rights of free speech just questioning the wisdom of the way they exercise it and to what end. They are here as guests, they are NOT citizens, and they lack total respect for the institutions they are attending and the country they are in. They also are disrupting the lives of other students that are there to learn (these students seem to not care about learning but are more focused on virtue signalling). Nothing these student protests are doing will make any difference but they get the gullible to follow them. If they really cared about the situation they would go somewhere where they could make a difference and it’s certainly not protesting at a US university.
"students who are occupying a slot at a university that others were denied." Yes, because education in your country is treated basically like a commodity: whoever is able to pay, no matter how they get the money, gets in. This doesn't make higher education sacrosanct wrt political quietism.
"our duty to deport them if they are not being respectful." Define "respectful" and to whom? You, because you get anxious about a sense of violated bourgeois justice? Who, precisely, do you think you are?
"They are guests in our country and need to show respect and manners and protesting what is happening in the Middle East does not do that." So is it the protesting itself that triggers you (odd coming from a supposed American whose country was born in protest [or are only certain kinds of people, let's say "white men," allowed to protest to your mind?]) or this strange idea that, somehow, some person living in the same country you do has to behave in some arbitrary manner you prefer? Again: who do you think you are?
"They are also protesting something not related to our country" False. Your country is consciously supplying the genocidaires and giving them all sorts of "cover"; your country is very much implicated in mass murder.
"nothing of what they are doing is going to make a hill of beans difference" Do you believe your posting filth here is going to make a hill of beans difference anywhere in particular? Again: who do you think you are?
"they are impacting the lives of all the other students on campus that are there to get an education." Oh? How?
"Do you think this is right?" Which "this" are you referring to? You have so much utter bullshit mixed in with simplistic opinions and sheer ignorance, I can't tell for for sure.
"If these foreign protesters are so committed to their cause then they should go fight for it somewhere where it will make a difference" See my comment above about who's giving the means for a genocide and be aware that many of these students come from places where the ruling elite have the same attitude you do about protest (very often at the behest of your government); the big difference is that, for now, protest in the belly of the beast is much more free. Curious how that came about historically, neh?
So well articulated per typical leftists. Seriously you are an embarrassment to the leftists of the past that could at least say something other than childish insults.
I am glad to see that this organization has terrorist designation in the US. Hopefully, any claims by this group will be supported by more reliable information or dismissed.
If an equally partisan organisation lobbied a Democratic govt to deport right-wingers would that be any different? Say deporting Gavin McInnes - this already happens with eg Lauren Southern being banned from the UK. Why is it only wrong when the other side does it?
You state incorrectly “ whoever is able to pay, no matter how they get the money, gets in”. That is not how higher education in America works at all and just shows your ignorance.
I am glad these ungrateful, self important foreign protesters are being thrown out of my country. I do not know anybody who would attend a foreign university and then have the arrogance and ignorance to then protest that same university or the country it resided in. If you think you are so damn important and must be heard then go run for political office and let the university and its students be.
If you come to this country to spew hate against it, to change it to suit your ideology, then go back where you came from and do that. In most cases I suspect they don’t want you back.
I don’t have a problem with deporting foreigners. Holding a Visa isn’t the same as being a US citizen. Should be coming here for politics. Foreigners come here and immediately start protesting. Hmm no.
Students here on valid visas still have free speech rights.
If you are opposed to free speech, perhaps you'd be happier elsewhere.
Speech is protected by the Constitution of the U.S.A., independent of the legality of a person's presence in the country.
Kind of hard to have many rights in a place you are trespassing upon.
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The primal right in this instance is to the EXIT.
The government is prohibited from making laws to regulate speech. The Framers thought this was important because they’d known first-hand of people thrown in jail by an out-of-control king, and wanted to nip that in the bud.
It doesn’t matter whose speech or what kind of speech, except for very narrow exceptions. Not the kind of exceptions that the Framers thought it wise to leave to the whim of an Executive.
The government is also prevented from infringing on weapons of self defense.
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Shall not be infringed is the simplest language one can use.
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In the era citizens asked if that included canons and the answer was a resounding yes.
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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
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This was never meant to be the safest country, only a very free one…the most free.
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Neither the first nor second Amendment should be infringed or regulated.
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Criminals pay minimal attention to laws…if any at all.
Total hyperbolic BS.
Negative, they are guests and can wear out their welcome. Thor presence is never entitled unless citizens.
Those in question are legally in the US. They were admitted by an application process that ended with their approval for residency,, either temporary or permanent. They are not here at the whim of some government official who can wag his little finger and make that status vanish.
Their status may change if they commit crimes, but speech is not a crime, whether it's correct or incorrect speech, whether what is said is smart or stupid, whether it's pleasant or offensive.
Free speech means free speech for everyone, not just people I like saying things I agree with. It includes the right of Nazis to march through a community where a lot of Holocaust survivors lived (Skokie, IL), offensive as that march was to those residents.
If you don't believe that speech you dislike is permitted, then you don't believe in free speech.
They were admitted by a policy outside of the law.
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They were enabled through pilitical means, not legal.
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Goodbye.
Kindly be specific as to what "policy outside the law" you are talking about for anyone involved in these speech issues recently. Is obtaining a visa to attend school in the USA a "policy outside the law?" Is being granted a green card, which shows that one has gone through the application process to be granted permanent resident status and has met the requirements, a "policy outside the law?"
What policy are you talking about? Or are you, as they say back home, "just talking to hear your head roar?"
That is the law
Wrong yet again, same reasons.
No context for your comment, wrong about what, and what reasons?
Correction, they WERE (somewhat) legally here (arguable), but are clearly now legally deported.
Actually, no, they were legally here (followed procedure, were approved), and were clearly *illegally* deported.
But you are Chinese
I guess I must be what I eat then…occasionally at best.
You lefties do not care about free speech. So knock it off. Cancel Culture anyone?
You don't know what you're talking about, so I guess it makes sense that you'd go ad hominem.
And, Chinese guy, I am Jewish
I can wear a mask, a frog costume, or my goddamned birthday suit - there are no dress codes for freedom of speech
No one stopped them. And the only people who moaned about it were Pissrealis
When Obama was droning American Citizens, no one seemed to have a problem, but deporting anti American & terrorist supporting Palestinians has got Jew Haters in a tizzy!
Nothing in your comment changes the fact that students here on valid visas still have free speech rights.
And I am skeptical of your conflation of those protesting the slaughter in Gaza as "terrorist supporting Palestinians." Many protests were actually organized by Jewish students, and many of those who support their efforts are not "Jew Haters."
Israelis aren't US citizens. I can say whatever I want about those pigs.
I am Jewish. I have a RIGHT to protest Pissraeli nazis
U can protest whatever u want; I’m sure it’ll work out great for u.
Being Anti Pissreal is American as fuhk
Plenty of people had problems with it, and got hippie-punched by DNC types.
Maybe they should go to school in another country?
I don’t really care. Deport the protesters.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
And our Constitution protects the rights of her Citizens. Or it was supposed to. Clearly first and second and fourth are regularly infringed upon. Especially the second amendment.
For what? Protesting a foreign country? You let that bag of shit Israel dictate to AMERICA what we can say about that Nazi country? Are you fucking high?
If they commit a deportable crime, sure. After a trial with due process, and, of course, a *conviction*.
The U.S. Constitution doesn't guarantee you freedom from becoming emotionally upset by people speaking their minds. It doesn't matter whether they speak the truth or only lies, whether they're smart or stupid, whether or not they even make any sense. Speech is protected, with a few very specific exceptions.
Hooyah! It is the most confrontational and objective speech that requires the most protection.
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I remember being raised on the old adage, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.”
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First Amendment Trumps everyone’s feelings….rightly and wisely so.
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Any speech, all speech, loving, hating, threatening. A threat is a warning, we should all be fortunate to have warnings.
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If you disagree, you either have not invested time on the thought and many thoughts….and refrain from meditation and simply thinking for the sake of thought and working through arguments informed and intelligently.
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Speech that incites hate and violence is legally protected for non citizens?
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You sure about that?
From Findlaw:
Unprotected Speech Categories
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Defamation
Fighting words
True threats
Obscenity
Child Pornography
Inciting speech
Fraud
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment1/does-the-first-amendment-protect-speech-that-advocates-illegal-c.html
Fraudulent speech is in the MSM every day…..
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I hope you are getting paid for your fraudulent propaganda that is the antithesis to both wisdom and common sense.
Plenty laws and policies are illegal.
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It’s why we have a Supreme Court and justices.
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Alas, we have suffered a near century of socialist subversion in our institutions of education.
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Whoah, the pendulum swings nigh.
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The people have awakened, corrections are swift.
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“shall not be infringed” ruffle me what that means?
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Free speech, is free speech.
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Walnut brains just can not read the plain black and white too well.
Please 🙄
Let’s just deport you instead.
Just maybe they should practice it in their own country.
This is the place to protest the trash bags Israeli murderers. Grow a frickin spine
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Oh, they have rights…as rights are granted by God. Just not a right to enjoy them anywhere that they like. They must enjoy their rights in their respective countries if they are not welcome in our country.
Fuck off Nazi scum🤡
Oh, you can spell Nazi. And that impresses who besides your echo chamber?
Te Reagan, although you mean well, you are allowing their wizardry words to deceive you. It’s not going to stop with foreigners, you are not getting that. You are saying to yourself that will never happen. It will. Time to realize things are going to get bad for everyone. And no, you are not a member of the special club regardless of your USA citizenship. That tyrannical wave is coming. With the deportation of people in such brutal ways… the American people are being groomed to accept harsh rule.
See, I watched the leftist practice cancel culture. I watched them go crazy stomping on freedom of speech. A visa holder is not the same. It should be a privilege to attend school here in our country. These students have no business going political. None what so ever.
And I do get where you’re coming from. It’s sounds good. But, no. We are tired of this nonsense. Are they being educated? Or are they here to protest our government? Which is it?
Not all leftists, not by any means. Maybe those who had power in the media, maybe those who called themselves leftists but were only Democratic Party apparachiks (or wannabes). Those who may remember having actual principles but threw them down the sewer when challenged by circumstances. I was what they call "Too Left For Obama," and I thought all that cancel stuff was beyond stupid.
The U.S. Constitution doesn't declare rights for citizens, it just declares rights. Or more correctly, it limits the power of the government to take them away, and it limits that power irrespective of citizenship or immigration status.
There are lots of things in the world as it is that I'm extremely damn well tired of. But that doesn't mean it's simple to make those things go away without creating worse problems. The Constitution was written by men who had very recent experience with government (royal) tyranny. They were extremely tired of *that* nonsense.
In actuality, the Constitution doesn't apply to "citizens," nor does it even apply to "people." It applies to the government. It tells the government what it can and can't do (the body tells the government what it can do, and the Bill of Rights tells it what it can't do).
While what is said above is legally true, in reality, non-citizen's rights are NOT protected by the US Constitution. The government cannot completely remove the right of aliens to keep and bear arms, have freedom of expression, etc, but it can greatly restrict those rights almost to the point where they are non-existent. This just goes to show that the interpretation of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights is really completely arbitary on the part of the government.
Please 🙏 put a bag over your head 🙏
This is freedom of speech. Fuck your Zionist brainwashing
It’s just so tiring that we can’t elevate the bewildered herds perspective above team blue/ team red nonsense.
Globocap doesn’t give a rats ass about your sovereignty or your rights. Control and cull the flock using one psyop after another. The plague compliance made for great comfort in the halls of the overlords.
We can bitch, but who or what forces are to blame?
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Citizens have been AWOL from both the awareness and participation required to manage and control our government.
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This has allowed fundamentals of our government to be eroded purposely by external ideology that conflicts.
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We are frogs that have been slowly boiled for 100 years.
In the end, any argument comes to digital. On or off, good or bad, yes or no.
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We have two parties in the end, because it is in the end the most basic argument.
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We are not a two party system, we are a multi party system.
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In the end we end up with two parties as the predominant choice.
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However parties can be internally subverted or replaced.
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With free speech the competition of ideas is possible.
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These ideas and the parties associated with them can either displace a party(s), have direct affect on a party(s), or lead to a party’s subversion.
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We are not truly a two party system.
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We simply choose alignments in the end of either/or.
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Both Democrats and Republican parties have been subverted over time through outside and inside influence of alternative parties and the popular opinions that they may display.
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The Tea Party attempted to replace the Republicans party.
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However, the Tea Party arose as an explosive threat to both parties.
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As such, both parties conspiratorially attacked the Tea Party using even the IRS, intelligence and Law Enforcement to attack them.
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So, many Tea Party affiliated politicians eventually joined the Republicans party.
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This Tea Party ideology was implanted into the Republican party and whether subversively or overtly and most likely both methodologies have had great affect/effect.
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The Republican Party continues to be covertly and overtly pressured to change to an America First agenda/ideology…
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My point is that we are not a two party system, that is incorrect as my attempt to illustrate.
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Despite the disparaging remarks of the most intelligent citizens in this thread amongst us.
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Would argue they are simply following long established law out of necessity.
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If you want to reform immigration, reform it….until then follow the established law and do it well. This is a fundamental purpose of the Federal Government, the Federal Government should be flawless at its few primary tasks.
Fuck off, zionist.
Aghhh, Lemy, didn’t know you cared! 😎
Sir, yes sir….may I have another!
Does that include Betar?
Everyone on US soil is entitled to the same rights, regardless of status, that's in the Constitution. Holding a visa entitles them to all the same rights as US citizens but voting
Nope. You don’t get the same rights as a US citizen. Otherwise, what’s even the point of gaining citizenship?
You are correct, everyone has rights.
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However, the protections of the USA and its Constitution are for the Citizens of that Constitution, not the world.
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If one wants to be afforded protections of their God given rights under the U.S. constitution they must be awarded citizenship in a proper and legal fashion.
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The U.S. Constitution is a document owned by the citizen to limit government!
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We, the citizens of this REPUBLIC demand that people foreign to this country apply for access truthfully and lawfully.
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What your interpretation suggests is chaos, unmanageable and an eventually failing proposition.
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It is akin to saying that I have a right to reside in your home, eat your food and use your resources as a right.
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Think longer and harder on this if your mind is capable.
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Yes, that is a slight, but it could also be a simple truth…I am not sure.
Too many people are still completely oblivious of the slippery slope of the concept “rights for me but not for thee”. They foolishly agree with it when they are part of me and those they despise are part of thee and don’t realize that it won’t always be the case. Once the Constitution principles get undermined and the existence of a “me group” and a “thee group” becomes commonly accepted, those that are fine with it today, are deluding themselves that they will always be part of the first group, while in reality they do not have the slightest idea of who will define the two groups 1 year, 5 years, or 10 years from now.
Principles are universal or they do not exist because those in power will always reshape any exception to suit their convenience.
Unfortunately, it seems that as a society we don’t give a damn about principles anymore. The lady who was complaining about cancel culture did not care about freedom of speech, only about who was impacted. Her demand that foreigners coming to the US be muzzled and do not protest “our government”, which at a first might appear to invoke the model of North Korea for the US, is actually worse than that, because there is no doubt that the actual targets are only those foreigners protesting in favor of causes she disagrees with, like Palestine, and against the Trump government.
I’d bet my house she has no problems with those who not just protested but violently attacked the previous government. Should they be deported to El Salvador or as long as they are US citizens and the administration is from the other color, is it acceptable?
The end of a democracy is irreversible when citizens lose the notion of principles and start seeing them as privileges, afforded to a group only. A group of which they delusionally believe to be permanent members
Everyone on US soil is entitled to the rights set forth in the Constitution.
Why get on here and say shit like this? You’re a fucking idiot.
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Citizens have far more rights silly!
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That’s like saying a stranger has the same rights inside your household/home as family.
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GTFOH! Ridiculosity
Read the Constitution. We all have the same rights, that's what made the US the Land of the Free
USA, a land of citizens whose rights are enumerated in their constitution.
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Citizens of other countries are free to exercise their God given rights in their country…and make changes to their government to support and guarantee those rights.
The Constitution says everyone on US soil. It says "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Yes, rights are granted by Hod.
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U.S. Citizenship is not.
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Sit down feeble minded.
You aren't even American
Oh, I’m not?
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I guess I’m not 26 year SF veteran either.
Citizens indeed do within their US. Non citizens have those rights within their own countries, though often not recognized by their governments.
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Read it? I have several, live, believe and embody.
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Our Constitution does not cede citizenship nor residency to the world knucklehead.
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Just as your home and refrigerator does not.
You clearly aren't American
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
I did not see US citizenship in there.
NO THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS US CITIZENS! Not even green card holds. Just wave goodby as the door hits them in the ass going home, I repeat, going home.
They absolutely have the same rights. Interesting that you don't know that. Are you maybe Chinese?
Sorry, not sorry, your incorrect
Read the law darl’n 🤔
Either there was a process for admitting them, or they broke in. Either way, since we are the status-quo, law-wielding power (i.e., “the house”), it’s right, proper, and powerful for us to have a process for deporting them, if that’s what needs to happen. We don’t give up power by doing that, we assert our power.
We aren’t just another gang of thugs or warlords. I suppose maybe you disagree, but for now, and for all of my life, we’ve been the house, not just another bettor at the table. We’ve done plenty of ugly stuff, but it’s a different kind of ugly when you have a monopoly on violence, which we do, at least for now, unless we fritter it away by acting like punks.
Speak clearly, I agree a bit before the slip to ambiguous rhetoric.
No they don’t
Yes they do. And for that matter, if neo nazis can have rallies, so can anti Pissreal people
BETAR USA are actually mostly based at MOSSAD HQ near Tel Aviv
It’s not deport… It’s human trafficking! If there is no court hearing, no due process and no judgment, it is not deportation. It’s human trafficking.
And if you hold a visa, citizenship, a residency permit, a green card, HB1, etc: you have the legal right to be in the United States. And if you are being kicked out of the country without due process, you are being trafficked.
Yes, you hold authorization to be here as a guest…
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Unless you wear out your welcome….
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Welcome no longer extended….good bye.
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KISS
Due process is a limit on the ability of the government to act tyrannically. To withdraw that welcome requires due process not because of the individual's entitlement to anything, but because those who wrote the Constitution had experienced tyranny under the British and wanted to guard against it here.
Learn the history.
You aren't an American
Fact check on the citizens deported.
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Last I checked the worst we have done to citizens is murder them.
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Like Obama targeting the San Diego Muslim Cleric and his son in a car in Yemen with a Predator Hellfire.
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Where were you then?
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CRICKETS….
Why come on here and ramble? You’re a fool, and I guess your goal is to make sure everyone else knows!
For more about Betar, watch my INN 1-on-1 with GenXGirl1994 as she dissects the parent Zionists of America & digs deeper into Betar US as well
https://open.substack.com/pub/indienewsnetwork/p/zionists-of-america-betar-us-eric?r=539iu&utm_medium=ios
Deporting non citizens protesting on US campuses is a great idea. These “students” came here to get an education so why in the heck are they spending all their efforts protesting. If my children were attending a foreign university and were protesting on campus I would be furious and would tell them to come home or study. Moreover, these protests ultimately will have zero impact upon the cause they are protesting.
Fuck off, right-wing slime.
Another intelligent response from a lunatic liberal. There are a lot of you around and it’s scary since you are the ones who commit violent acts and call it protesting.
Oh, son . . . .
I'm FAAAR from liberalism.
And I think my written opinion of you is just as high brow as your opinion of deporting non-citizens for vocally opposing genocide.
Try again, you scumball.
These are not just non citizens these are students who are occupying a slot at a university that others were denied. It’s a privilege for them to be here and our duty to deport them if they are not being respectful. They are guests in our country and need to show respect and manners and protesting what is happening in the Middle East does not do that. They are also protesting something not related to our country and nothing of what they are doing is going to make a hill of beans difference. But they are impacting the lives of all the other students on campus that are there to get an education. Do you think this is right? If these foreign protesters are so committed to their cause then they should go fight for it somewhere where it will make a difference like over there.
1. They are here legally.
2 They have committed no crime.
3. Their free speech rights are the same as anyone's.
4. That something offends you does not make it illegal, much less a legal reason to deport someone.
I am not denying their rights of free speech just questioning the wisdom of the way they exercise it and to what end. They are here as guests, they are NOT citizens, and they lack total respect for the institutions they are attending and the country they are in. They also are disrupting the lives of other students that are there to learn (these students seem to not care about learning but are more focused on virtue signalling). Nothing these student protests are doing will make any difference but they get the gullible to follow them. If they really cared about the situation they would go somewhere where they could make a difference and it’s certainly not protesting at a US university.
"students who are occupying a slot at a university that others were denied." Yes, because education in your country is treated basically like a commodity: whoever is able to pay, no matter how they get the money, gets in. This doesn't make higher education sacrosanct wrt political quietism.
"our duty to deport them if they are not being respectful." Define "respectful" and to whom? You, because you get anxious about a sense of violated bourgeois justice? Who, precisely, do you think you are?
"They are guests in our country and need to show respect and manners and protesting what is happening in the Middle East does not do that." So is it the protesting itself that triggers you (odd coming from a supposed American whose country was born in protest [or are only certain kinds of people, let's say "white men," allowed to protest to your mind?]) or this strange idea that, somehow, some person living in the same country you do has to behave in some arbitrary manner you prefer? Again: who do you think you are?
"They are also protesting something not related to our country" False. Your country is consciously supplying the genocidaires and giving them all sorts of "cover"; your country is very much implicated in mass murder.
"nothing of what they are doing is going to make a hill of beans difference" Do you believe your posting filth here is going to make a hill of beans difference anywhere in particular? Again: who do you think you are?
"they are impacting the lives of all the other students on campus that are there to get an education." Oh? How?
"Do you think this is right?" Which "this" are you referring to? You have so much utter bullshit mixed in with simplistic opinions and sheer ignorance, I can't tell for for sure.
"If these foreign protesters are so committed to their cause then they should go fight for it somewhere where it will make a difference" See my comment above about who's giving the means for a genocide and be aware that many of these students come from places where the ruling elite have the same attitude you do about protest (very often at the behest of your government); the big difference is that, for now, protest in the belly of the beast is much more free. Curious how that came about historically, neh?
Clearly over target. So easily triggered. Zero basis, all feels, zero understanding nor knowledge. A lemming of the progressive left.
You damn with faint praise, Sonny: I'm still far beyond your darling little "pwogwessives".
And BTW: go fuck yourself, you right-wing scum.
I wouldn’t even if I could.
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I don’t do dudes, emasculated or not….
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So don’t get your hopes up.
True colors revealed keyboard warrior.
Yes, your true colours have been revealed for a while now. Do I get a prize for noticing this days ago?
You get a prize all right.
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They use to call it a dunce cap.
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Google it.
Game set match, you win the award previously given Todd.
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Clearly it is continually sought after and befitting.
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Have the last word, may it actually be of some value to someone….Ben if it only garners a chuckle and ill sense of satisfaction from self.
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Aloha
STFU, idiot. Dimwitted fuckstick!
So well articulated per typical leftists. Seriously you are an embarrassment to the leftists of the past that could at least say something other than childish insults.
Suck deez nutz!
Triggered, lack of understanding and lack of skill to debate.
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Clear thought and speech clearly the Champion.
There is no need to debate dipshit liars.
Those whom can not debate, cast insults.
Great handle. Your words belt the quality of your thought.
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Uhm, NO.
Thank you for doing my extreme light work. Mahalo/Aloha
Yes they do, granted by God and within their country of citizenship, we agree.
Deport people advocating for sex mutilation surgeries.
Wow.
They describe themselves as "Jewish fascists"???
Interesting article.
I am glad to see that this organization has terrorist designation in the US. Hopefully, any claims by this group will be supported by more reliable information or dismissed.
BETAR USA are actually mostly based at MOSSAD HQ near Tel Aviv
If an equally partisan organisation lobbied a Democratic govt to deport right-wingers would that be any different? Say deporting Gavin McInnes - this already happens with eg Lauren Southern being banned from the UK. Why is it only wrong when the other side does it?
You state incorrectly “ whoever is able to pay, no matter how they get the money, gets in”. That is not how higher education in America works at all and just shows your ignorance.
I am glad these ungrateful, self important foreign protesters are being thrown out of my country. I do not know anybody who would attend a foreign university and then have the arrogance and ignorance to then protest that same university or the country it resided in. If you think you are so damn important and must be heard then go run for political office and let the university and its students be.
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If you come to this country to spew hate against it, to change it to suit your ideology, then go back where you came from and do that. In most cases I suspect they don’t want you back.
That's funny, I reported Betar for antisemitic activities.
Legal American Residents…
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Translation, Non citizens on Visa’s.
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Yup, you are a guest.
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So, if you are a poor guest, you will be asked to leave.
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KISS.
Thank you and FYI:
Mike Benz: “Impossible not to see CIA involvement when State Department is with Soros”
Europe's Censorship Industrial Complex threatens US, says free speech leader
Michael Shellenberger - May 09, 2025 – OUTSTANDING – UK as a hostile country to US
https://www.public.news/p/mike-benz-impossible-not-to-see-cia?r=byea&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=audio-player