Bellingcat are an astro-turfed “open source investigative independent media” set up, orchestrated by MI6 and then used by the CIA. The Grayzone have done some great reporting on the links and evidence of their activities as stenographers for and funded by the Intelligence Agencies. Some of it is shameless lies and propaganda, hardly hidden, revealed by a little scratching to look under the surface.
Exactly. Despite, perhaps, some methodological overreach, Bellingcat's Navalny poisoning findings, like their other high-profile findings, have been corroborated by courts, journalists, and other official investigations.
In the Navalny poisoning case, Bellingcat used phone records and travel data to identify FSB operatives. Some Russian commentators claimed that such evidence was circumstantial or manipulated. However, their identities were confirmed by Der Spegel and Navalny’s phone call sting.
That courts and journalists are adopting Bellingcat findings should surprise no one. For courts, the minimum requirement to convict individuals must be based on clear and convincing evidence, and that has arguably not always been the case where Bellingcat has provided evidence; eg the court case in the Netherlands regarding the downing of MH17.
Nor do I consider intimidating lawyers a meritorious trait of Bellingcat.
More? Or less meritorious than tossing them from windows, shooting them and "suiciding" them? Because dozens of Russian attorneys, journalists and executives have experienced such unfortunate incidents in the past few years.
Meanwhile, there is no verified case of Bellingcat threatening journalists with lawsuits, publishing personal information or coordinating offline harassment. Just whining from greyzone and company.
I wasn't talking about threatening journalists at all; I was talking about Bellingcat intimidating lawyers in the MH17 case (proper reading is a true art!).
If you really want to know, I like to stick to the facts and isn't it true that in the US people also die in very inexplicable ways; so obviously the Russians don't have the sole right to do so.
That these acts do not bear my approval, by the way, will hopefully come as no surprise, but that fact is entirely unrelated to my argument.
Finally, do you really believe that Wikipedia is the source of absolute truth? If so, I wish you good luck in your crusade to convince others of that fact.
Lots of people in the US get shot. But moguls and energy company executives and journalists and "former officials" don't die mysteriously. That one healthcare exec's murder was in the news for weeks. Billionaires don't try to fly in other countries.
Absolute truth? Spare me - Your subscriptions are showing. And those 70 or 80.people did not, not die - under strange circumstances.
Let's see a list of Americans or Europeans anything like that. Or are they just all suppressed?
You first try to lecture me and when that apparently doesn't quite work after reading my response, you try to scold me. Well, I wear that predicate with honour.
The whole (Spiegel, CNN, Bellingcat, Insider) Navalny story is nothing more than embarrassing anti-Russian agitation in its purest form, as, for that matter, are many of the allegations chronicled in The Dissident article. This, of course, will not convince you and so I would like to leave it at that.
OMG.... Not THEM again! I thought we had seen the last of the Bellenders. Obviously not. Needless to say I shall avoid watching their fictional dreamscape.
Interesting how Teixeira and Assange have been locked up and these people and many others skate free … apparently disclosing classified information is only an issue when it doesn’t fit a certain politically based narrative. Good to see some consistency 🙄
Or more truthfully, when you reveal actual classified information proving US malfeasance you go to jail, when you publish BS laundered by Intel, you get funded and magnified. Very interesting 🤔
This isn’t about partisan politics and I can’t stand either party at all. They all have proven themselves to be completely corrupt. But since you wanted to go there and since this situation has nothing to do with Hegseth or Trump…
The US govt, during Biden’s administration was lying about US involvement and the extent of that involvement in Ukraine. That is exactly what Texeira made public. He was simply made an example of with a huge 15 year sentence to attempt to prevent anyone whistleblowing against the lies of the Empire again in the future. Lies that were being leaked to The NY Times by Biden’s administration and/or Biden’s intel agencies, reported on as fact and then parroted by the rest of the mocking bird media.
Ukraine - you know, the country that Nuland organized an insurrection against and a coup of their government. So that they install a puppet, who was never more than an actor, and he would agree to buy natural gas from the West instead of a better/cheaper deal for the same product from Russia. You know, the country Hunter was getting paid to be on the board of energy and bio-lab companies, with zero experience in either business. You know, the country that borders Russia that we pushed NATO to the doorsteps of and wouldn’t state that they wouldn’t be admitted into NATO. Because we’d allow Canada and Mexico to be aligned with adversaries and be totally fine with it.
So, if you’re scoring at home, you’re rooting against a guy who told the truth and exposed the lies of the entire government and media about Ukraine, was then sentenced to 15 years for exposing those lies, and all of this will pretty much ensure that no service member will ever speak out again and the government will be allowed to lie and drag us into wars that kill hundreds of thousands of people.
It’s almost exactly what has gone on with Assange and Snowden, the latter who I didn’t even mention before. It’s all the same shit. Which is exactly what I said … truth tellers or whistleblowers expose government lies and corruption, then they are imprisoned or threatened with imprisonment and the ‘leaders’ who lied and are responsible for actual crimes are never held responsible.
And this blue and red bullshit and the fact that you still by into it is hilarious. And makes you an even bigger dumb fuck.
He exposed that the real criminals were full of shit and lying to the American people. AND he was right.
He told the truth while the government and all of the media lied. Laugh all you want but he’s not a criminal. He was prosecuted for telling the truth by the criminals while they lied to everyone about Ukraine and what was actually going on. Dumb fuck
He posted dozens of pictures of classified Pentagon documents on a videogame Discord server. He took hundreds home.
You're right, though. He did tell the truth about what he did (eventually). Unlike Hegseth and orangeman. Not being a senior maga official, he didn't get away with it.
Bellingcat are an astro-turfed “open source investigative independent media” set up, orchestrated by MI6 and then used by the CIA. The Grayzone have done some great reporting on the links and evidence of their activities as stenographers for and funded by the Intelligence Agencies. Some of it is shameless lies and propaganda, hardly hidden, revealed by a little scratching to look under the surface.
Don't forget Bellingcat's story on the poisoning of Navalny...
Exactly. Despite, perhaps, some methodological overreach, Bellingcat's Navalny poisoning findings, like their other high-profile findings, have been corroborated by courts, journalists, and other official investigations.
In the Navalny poisoning case, Bellingcat used phone records and travel data to identify FSB operatives. Some Russian commentators claimed that such evidence was circumstantial or manipulated. However, their identities were confirmed by Der Spegel and Navalny’s phone call sting.
That courts and journalists are adopting Bellingcat findings should surprise no one. For courts, the minimum requirement to convict individuals must be based on clear and convincing evidence, and that has arguably not always been the case where Bellingcat has provided evidence; eg the court case in the Netherlands regarding the downing of MH17.
Nor do I consider intimidating lawyers a meritorious trait of Bellingcat.
More? Or less meritorious than tossing them from windows, shooting them and "suiciding" them? Because dozens of Russian attorneys, journalists and executives have experienced such unfortunate incidents in the past few years.
Meanwhile, there is no verified case of Bellingcat threatening journalists with lawsuits, publishing personal information or coordinating offline harassment. Just whining from greyzone and company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_Russia-related_deaths_since_2022?wprov=sfla1
I wasn't talking about threatening journalists at all; I was talking about Bellingcat intimidating lawyers in the MH17 case (proper reading is a true art!).
If you really want to know, I like to stick to the facts and isn't it true that in the US people also die in very inexplicable ways; so obviously the Russians don't have the sole right to do so.
That these acts do not bear my approval, by the way, will hopefully come as no surprise, but that fact is entirely unrelated to my argument.
Finally, do you really believe that Wikipedia is the source of absolute truth? If so, I wish you good luck in your crusade to convince others of that fact.
Lots of people in the US get shot. But moguls and energy company executives and journalists and "former officials" don't die mysteriously. That one healthcare exec's murder was in the news for weeks. Billionaires don't try to fly in other countries.
Absolute truth? Spare me - Your subscriptions are showing. And those 70 or 80.people did not, not die - under strange circumstances.
Let's see a list of Americans or Europeans anything like that. Or are they just all suppressed?
You first try to lecture me and when that apparently doesn't quite work after reading my response, you try to scold me. Well, I wear that predicate with honour.
The whole (Spiegel, CNN, Bellingcat, Insider) Navalny story is nothing more than embarrassing anti-Russian agitation in its purest form, as, for that matter, are many of the allegations chronicled in The Dissident article. This, of course, will not convince you and so I would like to leave it at that.
Go do something meaningful with your life!
OMG.... Not THEM again! I thought we had seen the last of the Bellenders. Obviously not. Needless to say I shall avoid watching their fictional dreamscape.
Interesting how Teixeira and Assange have been locked up and these people and many others skate free … apparently disclosing classified information is only an issue when it doesn’t fit a certain politically based narrative. Good to see some consistency 🙄
Or more truthfully, when you reveal actual classified information proving US malfeasance you go to jail, when you publish BS laundered by Intel, you get funded and magnified. Very interesting 🤔
Poor, misunderstood Jack Teixeira. 🤣
This isn’t about partisan politics and I can’t stand either party at all. They all have proven themselves to be completely corrupt. But since you wanted to go there and since this situation has nothing to do with Hegseth or Trump…
The US govt, during Biden’s administration was lying about US involvement and the extent of that involvement in Ukraine. That is exactly what Texeira made public. He was simply made an example of with a huge 15 year sentence to attempt to prevent anyone whistleblowing against the lies of the Empire again in the future. Lies that were being leaked to The NY Times by Biden’s administration and/or Biden’s intel agencies, reported on as fact and then parroted by the rest of the mocking bird media.
Ukraine - you know, the country that Nuland organized an insurrection against and a coup of their government. So that they install a puppet, who was never more than an actor, and he would agree to buy natural gas from the West instead of a better/cheaper deal for the same product from Russia. You know, the country Hunter was getting paid to be on the board of energy and bio-lab companies, with zero experience in either business. You know, the country that borders Russia that we pushed NATO to the doorsteps of and wouldn’t state that they wouldn’t be admitted into NATO. Because we’d allow Canada and Mexico to be aligned with adversaries and be totally fine with it.
So, if you’re scoring at home, you’re rooting against a guy who told the truth and exposed the lies of the entire government and media about Ukraine, was then sentenced to 15 years for exposing those lies, and all of this will pretty much ensure that no service member will ever speak out again and the government will be allowed to lie and drag us into wars that kill hundreds of thousands of people.
It’s almost exactly what has gone on with Assange and Snowden, the latter who I didn’t even mention before. It’s all the same shit. Which is exactly what I said … truth tellers or whistleblowers expose government lies and corruption, then they are imprisoned or threatened with imprisonment and the ‘leaders’ who lied and are responsible for actual crimes are never held responsible.
And this blue and red bullshit and the fact that you still by into it is hilarious. And makes you an even bigger dumb fuck.
He exposed that the real criminals were full of shit and lying to the American people. AND he was right.
You nailed it all, conspiracy boy. Tell us more stories about evil Nuland, so we don't have to read from RT and newspravda.
Keep sticking your head in the sand. See you next Tuesday!
He told the truth while the government and all of the media lied. Laugh all you want but he’s not a criminal. He was prosecuted for telling the truth by the criminals while they lied to everyone about Ukraine and what was actually going on. Dumb fuck
He posted dozens of pictures of classified Pentagon documents on a videogame Discord server. He took hundreds home.
You're right, though. He did tell the truth about what he did (eventually). Unlike Hegseth and orangeman. Not being a senior maga official, he didn't get away with it.