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bvd9701's avatar

No , he’s sold out to the Deep State psychopaths.

Vance (that’s what he’s calling himself these days, right?) will do exactly as he has been told and will not upset the Zionist-controlled status quo. That is why I cannot even consider voting for Vance after Trump leaves office.

No one in this 2nd Trump term or in the MAGA movement in general has what it takes to lead the way out of this valley of darkness.

We require 💯% new blood.

Fren's avatar

The AmCon piece mistakes influencer cosplay for ideological conflict. There is no “Republican civil war over Israel.” There’s a bunch of podcasters fighting for clicks. Fuentes, Bannon, and the rest aren’t reshaping conservatism; they’re monetizing grievance.

Populism isn’t a governing philosophy; it’s a hustle. That’s why Kevin Roberts ended up begging for forgiveness in a two-hour humiliation session. Trump never defined “America First”; he sold it like steaks and NFTs. He delivered nothing in his first term and incoherence in his second.

And the idea that J.D. Vance will decouple the U.S. from Israel? Please. The man couldn’t even defend his own wife from a pack of teenage groypers.

Finally, on Tucker — from someone actually qualified to opine on these matters: Thomas Fleming, longtime editor of Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture, flagship of the Buchananite Old Right, offered perhaps the most devastating assessment of Carlson from within the ideology he pretends to embody:

“For many years I have ridiculed Tucker Carlson as a clueless preppy who played the part, first of mainstream neoconservative, then hardcore conservative, then populist, and now, reaching out for a broader audience, is taking up where Glenn Beck and Alex Jones left off. He is still the spoiled offspring of a mainstream flunkey for the CFR but, like a ’30s dictator, keeps going farther and farther into toxic egomania to the point that he wishes to out-Trump Trump by opposing the master whose boots he has so assiduously licked. No one should ever have paid any attention to him, and it is a little late for his former admirers to discover the Fascist bully lurking beyond the bow ties, soft eyes, and spaniel haircut. He’s no more a Fascist bully than he was ever a conservative. He is an actor — and not a very good actor.”

That about sums up the “new right”: a carnival of failed actors mistaking engagement for ideology, and a movement so hollow it mistakes clout for conviction. There’s no realignment here — just content.

JohnnyGee's avatar

The Dissent clearly laid out evidence of exactly why Vance isn't to be trusted. Also, AIPAC is having to work overtime recently, but don't think for a moment it doesn't continue to be one of, if not the most, influential lobbying groups in Washington; Vance isn't about to rock that boat. He's an opportunist who isn't above simply telling you what you want to hear to advance is own self serving interest.

Garrett Smith's avatar

Petey Vance will do exactly as his handlers instruct him to do. Just as Donald Trump has done exactly as his handlers instructed him to do. We can continue moving through past political personalities all the way back to LBJ. Our country is controlled by a criminal oligarchy. Until a majority recognize this, we are doomed. Glass half full it appears people are recognizing. That said, when you corner and animal, it's difficult to assess their reaction. The people running the world are slowly being cornered by logic. Watch for false Flags. It is the tyrants second greatest tool behind division.

alpinelake's avatar

No, Vance is a wholly owned subsidiary of Palantir. In other words, Peter Thiel’s bitch.

Mike Rube's avatar

The oligarchs are trying to clean up the Democrats (or Genocidacrats) to take over in 2028. It’s tough. Both parties are so sleazy, corrupt, stinking of murder and shit. They’ll have to quadruple the propaganda budget…

Philip Mollica's avatar

There is no such thing as post-Israel America, at least not in its current form.

The two are joined at the hip, and irreversibly corrupted.

Anyone claiming different in the political class is either disingenuous or malinformed.

Zoki Tasic's avatar

JD Vance has no morals and no principles except “JD First.”

He’s willing to say anything and completely humiliate himself to be close to power.

He is not a leader on this or any other issue. He follows the political winds that he thinks will get him to the presidency.

The only good thing about this is that he’s discrediting himself so much lying for Trump on a daily basis that his prospects for attaining the presidency are effectively nil.

siobhan's avatar

Hurts my heart

Krsna PROUT Domine's avatar

Better than AOC. In this game, there is no need for supremacy, just youre better than the other guy.

Wizard's avatar

"At the start of the genocide in Gaza, the company tweeted, “Certain kinds of evil can only be fought with force"

I agree Zionist. 

Will Martin's avatar

Death To Peter Thiel