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Malcolm MacPhail's avatar

Really good summary of the excellent work done right from the start by the independent reporting by Grayzone, Electronic Intifada and Mondoweiss who carefully and meticulously debunked the atrocity propaganda. It seems every three or four months there will be attempts to revive this hoax, and one has to credit Ali Abunimah and Nora Barrows-Friedman of the Electronic Intifada for quickly debunking every attempt. The latest attempt has been the Dinah Project which admits there is no evidence of sexual assault but tries to argue that it must have happened using crude and racist assumptions regarding Arab males.

Malcolm MacPhail's avatar

The point is that some people will unconditional support for Israel as a free pass to express their deep seated hatred of Arabs and Muslims.

Chris Nathan's avatar

So you’re saying they’re only murderers? Not rapist-murderers. Just ordinary murderers. Is that your point?

Timothy Wallace's avatar

Meanwhile, the NYT's will never publish anything to refute those claims because that slander (and beheaded babies of course) is what allows normally well-intentioned Jewish liberals to sleep well at night while continuing to fund AIPAC. Prove me wrong, please.

AnaG's avatar

Wow! I would like to print it and distribute the article around the zionist Dunwoody, GA, neighborhood where I unfortunately live.The only things they confront me about, because I have a Palestinian flag on my pole is the babies in the oven and rapes. I feel like inserting this article down their throats.

Viva Pinocho's avatar

Do so please, and let us know how it went.

Dylan Roberts's avatar

The fact there wasn't a single rape (or at least evidence for) shows the integrity of Hamas 'soldiers'. The IDF would have raped and tortured almost everyone if it was the other way around, as they have done endlessly since

Dylan Roberts's avatar

Are you asking for evidence that the IDF has raped Palestinians?

Chris Nathan's avatar

Yes. Evidence “[t]he IDF… raped and tortured… endlessly.” Is there any evidence of this. If it’s endless there must be quite a lot of evidence.

John Costello's avatar

If it's about character, place these unsubstatiated (made up) tales of mass rape and baby beheadings alongside the Gaza Health Ministry's conservative estimates of casualties, and other outside and historically credible and far higher estimates, and the proof is in, the basest form of propaganda vs the most restrained reportage of horrors right outside the door.

Chris Nathan's avatar

How many Israeli civilians do you think Hamas murdered on October 7th? Is your number zero? If not zero then… what?

John Stathatos's avatar

This seems by and large convincing. The article quotes a number of reputable sources in support of its thesis, and those I double-checked proved solid. I remember thinking at the time that a lot of the more horrific testimony sounded overwrought and definitely second or third-hand. It is still within the bounds of probability that some sexual abuse may have taken place at the time (I believe Hamas conceded that some criminal elements took advantage of the breaches), but it looks as though the 'mass rape' horror story may now be laid to rest.

Graeme Bird's avatar

No it’s not possible dummy. You go on a hostage swap raid, with a high tech army bearing down on you …… do you imagine in your wildest prurient fantasy that you will have the time or security to take your pack off, set your rifle aside and get your pants down your ankles?

Don’t oppress us with obvious Jew lies.

Elizabeth's avatar

Exactly. It’s beyond ridiculous. Not to mention that the warriors couldn’t possibly even be tempted by those hideous creatures

Graeme Bird's avatar

Ha ha ha. Be fair. Be fair. Bear in mind if you create a prison then prison rules go with that so of course some of the initial reports did seem credible.

If I was on my grandfathers farm stolen from me, given enough time I might seek to have some fun with a middle aged woman if I didn’t have to terrorise her. Well actually probably not. But what I am saying is there could be temptation there for people in that prison mindset. So take me out of the equation since I am not in that mindset.

But if you sit back and get the full context the Jew media force feeding is completely ridiculous.

Chris Nathan's avatar

To rape or not to rape before murdering? You seem to be having some trouble making up your mind.

Graeme Bird's avatar

Hamas did neither. The Jews did the massacre. Given the pressure Hamas was under the very notions imbedded in the Jews blood libels are ridiculous.

I see your mutilated knob and I can feel your lust for child sacrifice.

Chris Nathan's avatar

You are an angry fellow. It comes across clearly. You should seek out some compassionate help to work through whatever trauma it is that is haunting you. There is still time to get well.❤️‍🩹

Graeme Bird's avatar

The Jew calling himself Chris Nathan came here with the intention of doing his bit to promote genocide. The Jews are the most evil people in history. That is why he pretended to not understand what I was saying.

Neve O's avatar

You are not up to speed with the evidence - many researched the rape claims and baby beheading claims and when examined no bidues found to have been touched sexually. Israelineye witnesses said violence was from IDF not Hamas..Do yiu think that Israelis would not investigate given their views on Hamas etc. Much research done and

many lies uncovered by Israel. IfvHamas guilty I woukd be happ to say that also.

Neve O's avatar

Zion. Israel lies about Hamas doing stimache turning things that onlyb psychooaths eg IDF do.

Will Johnston's avatar

Putting such effort into trying to minimize the violent, cruel and bestial behaviour of Hamas on October 7 is, in my opinion, bewildering and disgraceful.

Will Johnston's avatar

To demand additional evidence beyond the self-incriminating videos taken by the Hamas terrorists themselves, and the vast documentation taken from the survivors, is not about looking for the truth. It seems obvious that something else is going on here. Shame on you.

Hanief's avatar

That’s the problem, there is no, zero, fuck all self incriminating evidence so additional evidence and proof is an absolute requirement! The denial of access to evidence and the “take our word for it” is in fact an admission that your initial claim and accusation is false, every plausible and reliable organisation have proven it to be fake nazi zionist propaganda and anyone still clinging to those claims must be living in an alternate reality, in other words they are really really fucking stupid!

Velociraver's avatar

Oh, no effort should be put into verify victim's complaints?

Who needs laws, right? Judicial process, pffft, who needs it when it's just so easy to say whatever suits your narrative to justify a genocide.

Rick Brockman's avatar

I’d be willing to bet a huge amount that they deny the Holocaust, too.

So, why wouldn’t they deny this?

Hanief's avatar

What is actually bewildering and disgraceful is believing the totally debunked bullshit propaganda about violent, cruel and bestial behaviour of HAMAS FREEDOM FIGHTERS on October 7th. In any uprising and fight back against occupation and oppression you can expect violence and on Oct 7th that was primarily committed by the NAZI ZIONISTS with their Hannibal directive. Bestiality, mass rape and murder is a known policy of the NAZI ZIONISTS, whether in war or everyday life, and to support such policy is below disgusting. But the world is waking up and the end is near for that illegitimate NAZI ZIONIST regime!

JEANNE BRANNIGAN's avatar

IMO None of us will ever know the Truth about what happened that day!

Too many people with an agenda telling the story they Prefer🙁

Velociraver's avatar

You don't believe the testimony of the victim? What happened to #MeToo?

Hanief's avatar

Countless accounts by Palestinian hostages of despicable atrocities, including rape, committed by the fucking deranged lunatic NAZI ZIONIST PIGS, with video and photographic evidence taken by the PIGS themselves, are denied by the PIGS themselves, and that’s the lunacy we have to deal with!

JEANNE BRANNIGAN's avatar

I never signed on to Me Too!

The world is full of liars now, and we all know it!

Patrick Gates's avatar

They lie, they ie and they lie. . . .it is all the kunts know

Robert Fowler's avatar

Hamas massacred 1,200 Israelis. The assholes still have hostages.

Chris Nathan's avatar

There’s no witness account of the rapes because the victims were murdered. Doesn’t seem very hard to understand.

Val D. Phillips's avatar

This is a fantastic piece I want to spread further. However, for some reason, October is spelled incorrectly throughout the piece. Can you do a quick search and replace?

Richard & Andrea Brody's avatar

So Jew hatred is a profitable gig, huh. It’s worth your soul?

G Bobbi's avatar

REALLY? You expect me to believe that blood was wiped from her wrists onto her sweats? I’ll bet you’ll next want me to believe that Hamass is a Christian charity organization.

Velociraver's avatar

So, you say you refuse to believe the testimony of the girl who wasn't raped, to insert your assertion that...she is lying?

Seek therapy, goofball.

G Bobbi's avatar

Actually, I said exactly the opposite. I think you need both Remedial English Reading and therapy.

Velociraver's avatar

She said she wasn't raped, why do you feel she was?

G Bobbi's avatar

What makes you think she was not?

Velociraver's avatar

Her testimony? Are you suggesting she lied about NOT being raped? Are you stupid?

Hanief's avatar

She confirmed herself that she wiped the blood and was NEVER raped! Do you want her to confess to something that didn’t happen like the typical fucking deranged lunatic NAZI ZIONIST PIG?

G Bobbi's avatar

My, my! Aren’t we distraught! I guess I would be, too if I was trying to weld Nazi and Zionist together—but that is like trying to weld air and diamond into steel. Enjoy your self-fornication you socialist bigot. I’m sure Allah is waiting to swallow your squirming soul and $hit it out into a kaffir’s food dish.