US sanctions: the most devastingly counter-productive example is still surely Cuba and the decision in Feb 1962 - signed off by "peace-loving" JFK - to impose a devastating full trade embargo and economic sanctions against Cuba which still stand today in 2026 ! Thanks a bunch dear "Mr. President Peaceful" JFK Jr!
But here is a recent(2026) and very surprising anti-establishment Q&A on this issue which I conducted with Chrome(!) AI:
Opening AI Q from me PG:
"Here are the top 2-3 almost uniquely made but crucial points re JFK's eventual too-late peaceful intentions:
1) Like almost every human and AI entity you do happily mention the JFK-backed Bay of Pigs invasion but like all humans you AI also fail to mention the equally provocative JFK-approved November 1961 so-called "Operation Mongoose" aka "Cuban Project" described by Wikipedia and others as a campaign of US state-sponsored terrorism against ordinary Cuban people when for example deadly explosives were planted outside restaurants and many other popular meeting places and vital facilities in Cuba.
2) No one except the then top CIA airborne weapons surveillance specialist Dino Brugioni ever mentions the 30 Jupiter ICBM missiles that had been very provocatively placed in Italy - they all only ever mention the 15 Jupiters installed in Turkey!
PS. Brugioni is only seen stating this in an interview in one documentary titled "Road to the Cuban Missile Crisis". It's also briefly mentioned in his book "Eyeball to Eyeball".
Note that soon after I uploaded that "Road to the Cuban Missile Crisis" documentary to Youtube it was blocked - ostensibly for "copyright" reasons - as I expected!
So your response to all of the above please - and can you find any other documented and irrefutable proof of Brugioni's "30 Jupiter missiles in Italy" statement?
Chrome AI's dissident truth-confirming Jan 9, 2026 reply:
1. Operation Mongoose and State Terrorism
You are correct that Operation Mongoose (the "Cuban Project"), authorized by JFK on November 30, 1961, involved activities often classified as state-sponsored terrorism.
Tactics: Led by General Edward Lansdale, the operation went far beyond simple espionage. It included sabotage of Cuban infrastructure (oil refineries, power plants, sugar mills) and numerous assassination plots against Fidel Castro.
Impact on Civilians: Historians like Jorge Domínguez and Noam Chomsky have documented that these campaigns were designed to cause economic collapse and internal revolt, effectively using the Cuban population as a pressure point.
The "Peaceful" Narrative: The aggressive nature of Mongoose is a critical counterpoint to the image of JFK as a pure "peace" president; indeed, these provocations were a primary driver for the Soviets to place missiles in Cuba as a deterrent.
2. Dino Brugioni and the 30 Jupiter Missiles in Italy
Your second point regarding the specific count of missiles in Italy is supported by the testimony of Dino Brugioni, the CIA’s top photographic intelligence expert.
Documented Proof: While most popular histories focus on the 15 Jupiter missiles in Turkey, it is an established historical fact that the U.S. deployed 30 Jupiter missiles to Italy (specifically at the Gioia del Colle Air Base) between 1960 and 1961.
Brugioni’s Role: As a founding officer of the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC), Brugioni was responsible for the very briefing boards shown to JFK. His account of the Italian deployment is documented in:
His Book: Eyeball to Eyeball: The Inside Story of the Cuban Missile Crisis (1991), where he provides the most granular details of the surveillance and deployment numbers
Historical records from declassified archives and intelligence officials substantiate your claims regarding both the aggressive nature of U.S. operations in Cuba and the specific scale of missile deployments in Italy.
1. Documented Proof of 30 Jupiter Missiles in Italy
Dino Brugioni's account of 30 Jupiter missiles in Italy is irrefutably supported by official U.S. and NATO records:
Official Deployment: On March 26, 1959, an agreement was signed for the Italian Air Force's 36ª Aerobrigata to operate two squadrons of missiles. Each squadron consisted of 15 missiles, totaling 30 PGM-19 Jupiter IRBMs deployed at the Gioia del Colle Air Base.
Operational Timeline: These missiles became operational between April and July 1961.
Declassification: Documents from the National Security Archive and the Wilson Center detail "Operation Pot Pie," the plan to withdraw these 30 missiles from Italy simultaneously with the 15 from Turkey as part of the secret deal to end the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Brugioni’s Verification: As the CIA’s chief of information for the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC), Brugioni was responsible for the photographic evidence that confirmed these sites' status to the President.
2. Operation Mongoose: "State Terrorism"
Historians and declassified files confirm that Operation Mongoose (the "Cuban Project") was a systematic campaign of sabotage and violence:
Provocation: Authorized by JFK on November 30, 1961, the operation aimed to provoke an internal revolt through "coordinated political, psychological, military, sabotage, and intelligence operations".
Terrorist Tactics: The program included declassified plans for assassination attempts on Fidel Castro and the sabotage of civilian infrastructure, such as electric power plants, oil refineries, sugar mills, and railway bridges.
Operation Northwoods: A subset of these provocations, proposed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, suggested staging terrorist acts on American soil and blaming them on Cuba to justify an invasion.
3. Context of the "Military Industrial Complex"
Your point regarding the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) aligns with the timeline of these events:
Eisenhower’s Warning: President Eisenhower famously warned of the MIC's "unwarranted influence" in January 1961, just months before these aggressive programs were fully realized under the Kennedy administration.
Systemic Drive: Critics and some historians argue that the "passive" nature of JFK’s early peace efforts was often overridden by the institutional momentum of the CIA and the Pentagon, which viewed the removal of the Castro regime as a primary strategic necessity.
Omission in History: The tendency to focus on the Turkish missiles while omitting the Italian deployment—and emphasizing the Bay of Pigs while downplaying the sustained terrorism of Mongoose—is often seen as a way to frame the Cuban Missile Crisis as a purely defensive reaction to Soviet aggression, rather than a culmination of years of mutual provocation.
AI responses may include mistakes. Learn more"
(End AI Q+A)
Yes Siree - I'm finally succeeding in turning Chrome AI into a fearless full-spectrum truth-exposing dissident!!
PS. Please - as I often do - try to remind incurable JFK worshippers of the inconvenient facts that I (and AI !) have presented above: the otherwise rational and informed Prof Jeffrey Sachs + ex-CIA Ray McGovern immediately spring to mind.
PS-2: Sadly here as on all non-green/anti-green comment forums I (Paul G) am as usual being 'frosted' out by those of you who dislike those of us who dare to criticize or even mock the bog-standard limited-issue anti-/non-green hosts of forums like these.
Get over it all of you hypocrites(how impolite!) who claim to oppose conformity and compliance !!
It's always been about stealing someone else's resources for our oligarchs. Gen Smedley Butler had it right when he wrote, "War is a Racket." Nothing has changed that truism in the entire existence of the United States, starting from our destruction of indigenous people's for their land. This is what the empire does, and it has been practicing for a very long time.
So, essentially, we've been committing acts of war against Iran for over a decade.
I want Congress to write a law that no president can take ANY offensive action against another country without the permission of Congress. That is inherent in the Constitution already.
And that permission that Congress gave presidents to go bombing, invading, and murdering people for ninety days without having to ask Congress's permission? That needs to go too.
Iran never did anything to us until we overthrew their popular and legally elected president on behalf of British Petroluem, and installed the weak and vicious shah to to hold down the country.
We need to start holding to our own ideals. We need to prosecute all our leaders who commit war crimes.
"We can't, they won't let us." We must begin by imagining the world we want to live in. That is the first step in doing impossible things. Like our Founders did.
History speaks for itself. So……….now we know the basic human values or at least the ultimate purposes of the various players, Iran, Cuba, US, Venezuela, China etc. The U.S. over the last one hundred years, has had a mixed record of acceptable and unacceptable policies. During this period the ruling culture and , political character has not changed much.
Of course the world character has changed dramatically, the dynamics seem to be pointed more towards reality rather than philosophical theories and goals
In the U S we see the most consequential change in political operations, again pointed towards reality. This reality is very difficult for the existing popular cultural and its power structure……..hence……….upheaval and convulsions like never before. Kind of like, vomiting the poison out the system. Though Trump is not a new face in the public eye, his approach to governing is oriented towards positive results for all involved and for the US primarily. He is not a politician but a businessman, independent due to his personal wealth and education.
With that said, let’s see where this goes, the past is the past, been there done that.
The USA only cares about Israel.
US sanctions: the most devastingly counter-productive example is still surely Cuba and the decision in Feb 1962 - signed off by "peace-loving" JFK - to impose a devastating full trade embargo and economic sanctions against Cuba which still stand today in 2026 ! Thanks a bunch dear "Mr. President Peaceful" JFK Jr!
But here is a recent(2026) and very surprising anti-establishment Q&A on this issue which I conducted with Chrome(!) AI:
Opening AI Q from me PG:
"Here are the top 2-3 almost uniquely made but crucial points re JFK's eventual too-late peaceful intentions:
1) Like almost every human and AI entity you do happily mention the JFK-backed Bay of Pigs invasion but like all humans you AI also fail to mention the equally provocative JFK-approved November 1961 so-called "Operation Mongoose" aka "Cuban Project" described by Wikipedia and others as a campaign of US state-sponsored terrorism against ordinary Cuban people when for example deadly explosives were planted outside restaurants and many other popular meeting places and vital facilities in Cuba.
2) No one except the then top CIA airborne weapons surveillance specialist Dino Brugioni ever mentions the 30 Jupiter ICBM missiles that had been very provocatively placed in Italy - they all only ever mention the 15 Jupiters installed in Turkey!
PS. Brugioni is only seen stating this in an interview in one documentary titled "Road to the Cuban Missile Crisis". It's also briefly mentioned in his book "Eyeball to Eyeball".
Note that soon after I uploaded that "Road to the Cuban Missile Crisis" documentary to Youtube it was blocked - ostensibly for "copyright" reasons - as I expected!
So your response to all of the above please - and can you find any other documented and irrefutable proof of Brugioni's "30 Jupiter missiles in Italy" statement?
Chrome AI's dissident truth-confirming Jan 9, 2026 reply:
1. Operation Mongoose and State Terrorism
You are correct that Operation Mongoose (the "Cuban Project"), authorized by JFK on November 30, 1961, involved activities often classified as state-sponsored terrorism.
Tactics: Led by General Edward Lansdale, the operation went far beyond simple espionage. It included sabotage of Cuban infrastructure (oil refineries, power plants, sugar mills) and numerous assassination plots against Fidel Castro.
Impact on Civilians: Historians like Jorge Domínguez and Noam Chomsky have documented that these campaigns were designed to cause economic collapse and internal revolt, effectively using the Cuban population as a pressure point.
The "Peaceful" Narrative: The aggressive nature of Mongoose is a critical counterpoint to the image of JFK as a pure "peace" president; indeed, these provocations were a primary driver for the Soviets to place missiles in Cuba as a deterrent.
2. Dino Brugioni and the 30 Jupiter Missiles in Italy
Your second point regarding the specific count of missiles in Italy is supported by the testimony of Dino Brugioni, the CIA’s top photographic intelligence expert.
Documented Proof: While most popular histories focus on the 15 Jupiter missiles in Turkey, it is an established historical fact that the U.S. deployed 30 Jupiter missiles to Italy (specifically at the Gioia del Colle Air Base) between 1960 and 1961.
Brugioni’s Role: As a founding officer of the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC), Brugioni was responsible for the very briefing boards shown to JFK. His account of the Italian deployment is documented in:
His Book: Eyeball to Eyeball: The Inside Story of the Cuban Missile Crisis (1991), where he provides the most granular details of the surveillance and deployment numbers
Historical records from declassified archives and intelligence officials substantiate your claims regarding both the aggressive nature of U.S. operations in Cuba and the specific scale of missile deployments in Italy.
1. Documented Proof of 30 Jupiter Missiles in Italy
Dino Brugioni's account of 30 Jupiter missiles in Italy is irrefutably supported by official U.S. and NATO records:
Official Deployment: On March 26, 1959, an agreement was signed for the Italian Air Force's 36ª Aerobrigata to operate two squadrons of missiles. Each squadron consisted of 15 missiles, totaling 30 PGM-19 Jupiter IRBMs deployed at the Gioia del Colle Air Base.
Operational Timeline: These missiles became operational between April and July 1961.
Declassification: Documents from the National Security Archive and the Wilson Center detail "Operation Pot Pie," the plan to withdraw these 30 missiles from Italy simultaneously with the 15 from Turkey as part of the secret deal to end the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Brugioni’s Verification: As the CIA’s chief of information for the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC), Brugioni was responsible for the photographic evidence that confirmed these sites' status to the President.
2. Operation Mongoose: "State Terrorism"
Historians and declassified files confirm that Operation Mongoose (the "Cuban Project") was a systematic campaign of sabotage and violence:
Provocation: Authorized by JFK on November 30, 1961, the operation aimed to provoke an internal revolt through "coordinated political, psychological, military, sabotage, and intelligence operations".
Terrorist Tactics: The program included declassified plans for assassination attempts on Fidel Castro and the sabotage of civilian infrastructure, such as electric power plants, oil refineries, sugar mills, and railway bridges.
Operation Northwoods: A subset of these provocations, proposed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, suggested staging terrorist acts on American soil and blaming them on Cuba to justify an invasion.
3. Context of the "Military Industrial Complex"
Your point regarding the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) aligns with the timeline of these events:
Eisenhower’s Warning: President Eisenhower famously warned of the MIC's "unwarranted influence" in January 1961, just months before these aggressive programs were fully realized under the Kennedy administration.
Systemic Drive: Critics and some historians argue that the "passive" nature of JFK’s early peace efforts was often overridden by the institutional momentum of the CIA and the Pentagon, which viewed the removal of the Castro regime as a primary strategic necessity.
Omission in History: The tendency to focus on the Turkish missiles while omitting the Italian deployment—and emphasizing the Bay of Pigs while downplaying the sustained terrorism of Mongoose—is often seen as a way to frame the Cuban Missile Crisis as a purely defensive reaction to Soviet aggression, rather than a culmination of years of mutual provocation.
AI responses may include mistakes. Learn more"
(End AI Q+A)
Yes Siree - I'm finally succeeding in turning Chrome AI into a fearless full-spectrum truth-exposing dissident!!
(Paul G)
PS. Please - as I often do - try to remind incurable JFK worshippers of the inconvenient facts that I (and AI !) have presented above: the otherwise rational and informed Prof Jeffrey Sachs + ex-CIA Ray McGovern immediately spring to mind.
PS-2: Sadly here as on all non-green/anti-green comment forums I (Paul G) am as usual being 'frosted' out by those of you who dislike those of us who dare to criticize or even mock the bog-standard limited-issue anti-/non-green hosts of forums like these.
Get over it all of you hypocrites(how impolite!) who claim to oppose conformity and compliance !!
(Paul G)
It's always been about stealing someone else's resources for our oligarchs. Gen Smedley Butler had it right when he wrote, "War is a Racket." Nothing has changed that truism in the entire existence of the United States, starting from our destruction of indigenous people's for their land. This is what the empire does, and it has been practicing for a very long time.
So, essentially, we've been committing acts of war against Iran for over a decade.
I want Congress to write a law that no president can take ANY offensive action against another country without the permission of Congress. That is inherent in the Constitution already.
And that permission that Congress gave presidents to go bombing, invading, and murdering people for ninety days without having to ask Congress's permission? That needs to go too.
Iran never did anything to us until we overthrew their popular and legally elected president on behalf of British Petroluem, and installed the weak and vicious shah to to hold down the country.
We need to start holding to our own ideals. We need to prosecute all our leaders who commit war crimes.
"We can't, they won't let us." We must begin by imagining the world we want to live in. That is the first step in doing impossible things. Like our Founders did.
History speaks for itself. So……….now we know the basic human values or at least the ultimate purposes of the various players, Iran, Cuba, US, Venezuela, China etc. The U.S. over the last one hundred years, has had a mixed record of acceptable and unacceptable policies. During this period the ruling culture and , political character has not changed much.
Of course the world character has changed dramatically, the dynamics seem to be pointed more towards reality rather than philosophical theories and goals
In the U S we see the most consequential change in political operations, again pointed towards reality. This reality is very difficult for the existing popular cultural and its power structure……..hence……….upheaval and convulsions like never before. Kind of like, vomiting the poison out the system. Though Trump is not a new face in the public eye, his approach to governing is oriented towards positive results for all involved and for the US primarily. He is not a politician but a businessman, independent due to his personal wealth and education.
With that said, let’s see where this goes, the past is the past, been there done that.
Just another psyop like the last 50 years to justify installing someone subservient to Israel. Here's their current "candidate" kissing the wall: https://substack.com/@palestinewillbefree/note/c-198515296?utm_source=notes-share-action