Thanks for this. Some relevant new information about the number of police at the festival. But one thing you only mention tangentially makes it even worse. The Supernova festival was originally planned to take place in a completely different location far away from the Gaza fence. It was mysteriously moved to that venue just three days prior to the event. Local security officials refused to approve the event but were overruled by higher ups in Tel Aviv. It is now certain that this was deliberately engineered to create worldwide outrage and manufacture consent for the pre-planned genocide.
This does seem like an important point. Any why, shouldn’t we be asking, would such a festival be held so close to the Gaza fence? Additionally media represented the festival as if it had all the innocence of a junior high prom. If you hear Max Blumenthals telling (he is familiar with these events) it was more like a Molly fueled hedonistic gathering.
The constant waving of the bloody shirt of 10/7, and the absurd claims by Zionists that “all you have to do is free the hostages and the war will end immediately” make it clear from the start what what really going on.
Difficult not to notice that, propaganda to the contrary, the IDF wasn’t really focusing at all on “freeing the hostages to end the war” and seemed to spend most of their time murdering and torturing and starving civilians.
Not "human shields." Human sacrifices. Helicopters strafed concert goers, "mistaking" them for Palestinians (early report in October). How many helicopters does Hamas have? None. They needed as many "martyrs" as possible to justify the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians. So, they made sure there were lots.
This assessment is certainly reasonable, considering the affection for Hasbara among the Israeli leadership and the surety that a Palestinian attack would surely justify the Zionist genocide on Gaza to the world. I suspect, however, that the leadership in their arrogance demeaned the capabilities of Hamas et al fighters, expecting that the IOF could make short work of the attackers and that there would be some 'acceptable' number of Israeli casualties.
The possibility, indeed, likelihood, was blindingly obvious from the start, so ludicrous was it that the world's best-defended and deadliest frontier could be breached by a handful of men on motorcycles and hang-gliders. And even plausible is that Israel's intelligence services actually helped plan the attack through infiltration and influence of Hamas.
Oh boy have I been waiting for this to come out. I'm not in the least surprised because of the callous and ruthless perpetration of the occupation by the Israelis over the decades and especially the genocide.
This guy took the words right out of my mouth when I scrolled to near the end:
>>Israeli Air Force Colonel Nof Erez said, “This was a mass Hannibal. It was tons and tons of openings in the fence, and thousands of people in every type of vehicle, some with hostages and some without”.<<
I’m not evil or stupid. I evaluate the sources of history and current affairs offered to me.
Do you honestly not realize that Zionism was completely rejected by Jews I at the turn of the 19th centaure? Have you not read the plea by the only Jewish British minister at that time, for the British to not deal with the Zionists because it would be bad for Jews worldwide? That Zionism was not Judaism, and was in fact incompatible with Judaism?
His name was Lord Montagu. You should look it up. It’s not a disputed historical reference: these are words spoken and recorded in the British parliament.
1 Reichspfennig coin
You should look that up too.
You think I’m evil. But I think you’re evil.
You have the same access to these resources as I do.
You are responsible for your own actions and choices. As am I.
what is your point? whatever israel's failings, there was a brutal attack on oct. 7 by Palestinians. They were not forced to rape, mutilate ,murder, and burn. That they chose to do. You think israel is too harsh? Israel did in fact, put up with a lot of damage for the past decade, of thousands of rockets, kites with flames, etc. Ae you critical of Palestinians or only Israel?
You need to go further back then a decade. Your own historians have. Illan Pappe is perhaps the most prominent.
I know you consider yourselves victims: you think your people are victims of the Nazi holocaust, whereas your country was inspired by Zionists who conspired with the Nazis to create Israel…a deal with the devil.
The history you know is wrong. The present you know is wrong. The future you think you are owed is wrong.
Your future is full of hateful feelings and actions to justify your existence and your politics and ideology. That’s your whole future. That’s what you’re choosing. Lying to yourselves, your children, your neighbours…that’s your only future if you cannot break free of your shackles and seek truth, like Ilan Pappe did.
It’s your choice. Your personal choice. And only you are responsible for it. And no one else can be blamed for your choice. It’s all on you.
I cannot believe this evil stupid woman wrote that the Holocaust was inspired by Zionists. Implicating that Zionists were responsible for the Holocaust. I just cannot get over this vile vicious stupidity. She must be reading those Qatar financed social media posts. While some Zionists perhaps were glad Hews were coming to Israel when they were fleeing horrific persecution, to distort it like this is pure vicious evil.
I guess then the Irish are responsible for the British did to them. They did not defend themselves adequately and some if them cooperated with the British. Not to mention what Irish immigrants did to American natives
How dare you, you disgusting bitch, blame the Jews for being victims of the Holocaust!!!!! You must be Irish. I find the Irish are the most disgusting jew haters. Did you learn the shit you spout in church?
There are many serious problems in Israel and for the past 20 yrs we have had an awful government. However, Mary, that in no way excuses the atrocities committed by Palestinians who knew there was a huge protest movement against the government, with some threatening not to serve in reserve duty,. The Palestinians considered it a great opportunity to slaughter, rape, mutilate and burn babies. That is what they did. You are blaming Israel because Israel did not keep them caged up tightly enough? Because Israel did not consider them dangerous? That was of course foolish of Israel but removes none of the responsibility from those financed, planned and carried out these atrocities
We are supposed to believe that the smartest and most ruthless secret police in the world in control of the most heavily militarized border in the world were overcome by a rabble band of terrorists on motorcycles, pickup trucks, & motorized para-glides!
The Big Jew throws the Little Jew under the Bus if necessary. Zionists cheered the Persecutions of Jews throughout the World if it meant many Jews would migrate to Palestine.
They didn't just let it happen, they did most of the killing! It was a scam to turn the world against the Palestinians, and it has backfired dramatically!
Also do not forget the young beautiful female Israeli soldiers /scout look outs who let the commanders know that it was about to happen. They were ignored of course. Because nothing will rile the IDF up more than a beautiful young woman soldier captured. It seems the commanders even let their women be taken to unleash the violent retaliation . Will they ever admit this ? Do we know given the Hannibal command how many of these women the IDF killed by ‘ friendly fire ‘
More and more this appears to be the plans of a psychopath prepared to go to any lengths not to end up in the ICC
Thanks for this. Some relevant new information about the number of police at the festival. But one thing you only mention tangentially makes it even worse. The Supernova festival was originally planned to take place in a completely different location far away from the Gaza fence. It was mysteriously moved to that venue just three days prior to the event. Local security officials refused to approve the event but were overruled by higher ups in Tel Aviv. It is now certain that this was deliberately engineered to create worldwide outrage and manufacture consent for the pre-planned genocide.
This does seem like an important point. Any why, shouldn’t we be asking, would such a festival be held so close to the Gaza fence? Additionally media represented the festival as if it had all the innocence of a junior high prom. If you hear Max Blumenthals telling (he is familiar with these events) it was more like a Molly fueled hedonistic gathering.
If you want to know about this event, this is an archived copy of the original flyer promoting the event:
https://archive.md/M9a6t
Since it had a strong connection to the annual Universo Paralello festival in Brazil, this is also useful reference:
https://www-universoparalello-org
It's the JEWS
The constant waving of the bloody shirt of 10/7, and the absurd claims by Zionists that “all you have to do is free the hostages and the war will end immediately” make it clear from the start what what really going on.
Difficult not to notice that, propaganda to the contrary, the IDF wasn’t really focusing at all on “freeing the hostages to end the war” and seemed to spend most of their time murdering and torturing and starving civilians.
Not "human shields." Human sacrifices. Helicopters strafed concert goers, "mistaking" them for Palestinians (early report in October). How many helicopters does Hamas have? None. They needed as many "martyrs" as possible to justify the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians. So, they made sure there were lots.
This assessment is certainly reasonable, considering the affection for Hasbara among the Israeli leadership and the surety that a Palestinian attack would surely justify the Zionist genocide on Gaza to the world. I suspect, however, that the leadership in their arrogance demeaned the capabilities of Hamas et al fighters, expecting that the IOF could make short work of the attackers and that there would be some 'acceptable' number of Israeli casualties.
The possibility, indeed, likelihood, was blindingly obvious from the start, so ludicrous was it that the world's best-defended and deadliest frontier could be breached by a handful of men on motorcycles and hang-gliders. And even plausible is that Israel's intelligence services actually helped plan the attack through infiltration and influence of Hamas.
ZIOPIGS just like the World Trade Center! It was the devil ISRAEL.
I’ve always suspected this. It was too horrific to be organic.
Oh boy have I been waiting for this to come out. I'm not in the least surprised because of the callous and ruthless perpetration of the occupation by the Israelis over the decades and especially the genocide.
This guy took the words right out of my mouth when I scrolled to near the end:
>>Israeli Air Force Colonel Nof Erez said, “This was a mass Hannibal. It was tons and tons of openings in the fence, and thousands of people in every type of vehicle, some with hostages and some without”.<<
If israel protected its people sufficiently or not, the fact is that Palestinian Hamas operatives made the attack and committed the atrocities.
Jeesh…I just saw how many comments you left me. This is not a conversation. I think you’re a bot. Blocked. So long.
I’m not evil or stupid. I evaluate the sources of history and current affairs offered to me.
Do you honestly not realize that Zionism was completely rejected by Jews I at the turn of the 19th centaure? Have you not read the plea by the only Jewish British minister at that time, for the British to not deal with the Zionists because it would be bad for Jews worldwide? That Zionism was not Judaism, and was in fact incompatible with Judaism?
His name was Lord Montagu. You should look it up. It’s not a disputed historical reference: these are words spoken and recorded in the British parliament.
1 Reichspfennig coin
You should look that up too.
You think I’m evil. But I think you’re evil.
You have the same access to these resources as I do.
You are responsible for your own actions and choices. As am I.
Have you been taking note of events since October 8th to present day? What facts do you summarize from that?
what is your point? whatever israel's failings, there was a brutal attack on oct. 7 by Palestinians. They were not forced to rape, mutilate ,murder, and burn. That they chose to do. You think israel is too harsh? Israel did in fact, put up with a lot of damage for the past decade, of thousands of rockets, kites with flames, etc. Ae you critical of Palestinians or only Israel?
You need to go further back then a decade. Your own historians have. Illan Pappe is perhaps the most prominent.
I know you consider yourselves victims: you think your people are victims of the Nazi holocaust, whereas your country was inspired by Zionists who conspired with the Nazis to create Israel…a deal with the devil.
The history you know is wrong. The present you know is wrong. The future you think you are owed is wrong.
Your future is full of hateful feelings and actions to justify your existence and your politics and ideology. That’s your whole future. That’s what you’re choosing. Lying to yourselves, your children, your neighbours…that’s your only future if you cannot break free of your shackles and seek truth, like Ilan Pappe did.
It’s your choice. Your personal choice. And only you are responsible for it. And no one else can be blamed for your choice. It’s all on you.
I cannot believe this evil stupid woman wrote that the Holocaust was inspired by Zionists. Implicating that Zionists were responsible for the Holocaust. I just cannot get over this vile vicious stupidity. She must be reading those Qatar financed social media posts. While some Zionists perhaps were glad Hews were coming to Israel when they were fleeing horrific persecution, to distort it like this is pure vicious evil.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ArixnyFrY/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Next we shall see you posting quotes from Mien Kampf and The protocols if the Elders of Zion
I guess then the Irish are responsible for the British did to them. They did not defend themselves adequately and some if them cooperated with the British. Not to mention what Irish immigrants did to American natives
How dare you, you disgusting bitch, blame the Jews for being victims of the Holocaust!!!!! You must be Irish. I find the Irish are the most disgusting jew haters. Did you learn the shit you spout in church?
There are many serious problems in Israel and for the past 20 yrs we have had an awful government. However, Mary, that in no way excuses the atrocities committed by Palestinians who knew there was a huge protest movement against the government, with some threatening not to serve in reserve duty,. The Palestinians considered it a great opportunity to slaughter, rape, mutilate and burn babies. That is what they did. You are blaming Israel because Israel did not keep them caged up tightly enough? Because Israel did not consider them dangerous? That was of course foolish of Israel but removes none of the responsibility from those financed, planned and carried out these atrocities
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ArixnyFrY/?mibextid=wwXIfr
And you are an enthusiastic participant in the campaign to destroy israel
No. Are you?
Well DUH!
We are supposed to believe that the smartest and most ruthless secret police in the world in control of the most heavily militarized border in the world were overcome by a rabble band of terrorists on motorcycles, pickup trucks, & motorized para-glides!
Bullshit. Israel Knew.
The Big Jew throws the Little Jew under the Bus if necessary. Zionists cheered the Persecutions of Jews throughout the World if it meant many Jews would migrate to Palestine.
They didn't just let it happen, they did most of the killing! It was a scam to turn the world against the Palestinians, and it has backfired dramatically!
Also do not forget the young beautiful female Israeli soldiers /scout look outs who let the commanders know that it was about to happen. They were ignored of course. Because nothing will rile the IDF up more than a beautiful young woman soldier captured. It seems the commanders even let their women be taken to unleash the violent retaliation . Will they ever admit this ? Do we know given the Hannibal command how many of these women the IDF killed by ‘ friendly fire ‘
More and more this appears to be the plans of a psychopath prepared to go to any lengths not to end up in the ICC
What happened on October 6?
*Winstanley