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Donald Woods's avatar

Push the Russian Federation to take Odessa and Ukraine ceases to exist as a viable state. I have no doubt the west will continue partisan sabotage and espionage activities for years to come however

Philip Mollica's avatar

because none of them want to end the war.

they just want it to look like they are trying to end the war.

this is all by design - good cop, bad cop.

so Rubio can take the blame this time. next time someone else.

it's a crock - if the ZIO-Imperialist Mafia wants the war to end, it will end then, and not a moment before.

Pxx's avatar

No surprises here. The draft text, whatever its actual origin, was noteworthy in laying down the core issue, just as discussed in this post. So for all the blathering incompetence of the Trump team, they've exceeded the Biden admin's stubborn refusal to even consider reality. But that's typical of them - a brief moment of reality, inevitably drowned out in a sea of incompetence and corruption.

And in a number of ways, "28 points" was a weaker proposal than Istanbul. Even before revision in Geneva. So it was easy to conclude it could go nowhere. With Rubio and Kushner (!) involved, there's no doubt at all.

The Trump admin isn't going to pull off a negotiated deal, not now, not at any point. They don't have the clarity, cohesion, or willpower. If Israel ropes them into a shooting war with Iran (50/50 on that in the remaining two years) they'll just cold-turkey pull the plug on Kiev - and get another equally awful mess in exchange.

Otherwise it's status quo on autopilot. Plus or minus a handful of jets or missiles doesn't change the basics. Europe is for now irrelevant, militarily speaking. Not one country in European NATO wants to do what Ukraine is doing. Talk of 100 Mirage and Gripen jets, in a decade, with unclear funding... okay sure. The way it's going, Ukraine will run out of militarily useful men around the time Trump's term ends, and given their strategy of demonstrative deep strikes for the purpose of provocation, they'll be largely without power by summer 2026 if not sooner, kicking off a big population movement.

Joe Van Steenbergen's avatar

That peace plan reads like it was written by multi-national corporations who stand to profit from its provisions; it wash't going anywhere, anyway, and didn't need Rubio to derail it. Russia has absolutely no pressing reason to try to deal with the U.S. or with its proxy Ukraine.

Liberty Liz's avatar

It's all about the public private partnerships, especially with this OWS 2.0 administration.

Clarissa Sr., American Grandma's avatar

⭐🇺🇸🇺🇦  “The Promise the World Didn’t Forget”

In a land full of echoes from struggles long past,

Where the truth must stand tall

and the lies never last,

A bright little promise still shines, glowing yet—

A vow from the world

we should never forget.

It came from a time when the globe stood as one,

When fascism’s darkness

was finally undone.

Our grandparents fought with a courage so true,

So tyrants would fall

and the daylight break through.

They crossed stormy oceans with fire in their eyes,

They challenged the strongmen

and silenced their lies.

Their bravery carved out the freedoms we keep—

A legacy guarding

the wakeful and deep.

And today in Ukraine, that courage returns,

In people defending

their homes as it burns.

They stand against Russia’s illegal parade,

A tyrant whose cruelty

the whole world has weighed.

We remember the moment the globe made its stand—

The Budapest promise,

the word of each land:

Ukraine gave its weapons so peace could take root,

And trusted the world

not to follow the brute.

But here in our homeland, confusion still spreads

Through FOX-colored lenses

and right-winger threads.

They shout “all is fine!” while the families cry,

As prices climb higher

and checks barely buy

Insurance, and food, and the basics of day—

While propagandists twist

what the numbers convey.

So the grandparents rise with a bright steady beat,

With phones shining fiercely

like lamps in the street.

They comment with courage, they post without fear,

They lift Indy media

the nation must hear.

They share what is fact-based, transparent, and clear,

They push back the lies

till the truth reappears.

Each repost a lantern, each comment a flame—

A spark from the past

with a new modern name.

From Normandy’s beaches to Kyiv’s brave stand,

From WW2 sacrifice

to thumbs in our hand—

The torch passes onward from challenge to threat,

For truth is a promise

the world won’t forget.

© 2025 Clarissa Sr.

🦅 #GrandparentsForDemocracy | #StandWithUkraine | #ResharingBrigade | #FactBasedMedia | #LightInTheDarkness 💙❤️💛

ChatterX's avatar

Once a neocon..

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"Neocon(servatism)" is just a fancy word for Imperialism

Malcolm MacPhail's avatar

Just like he sabotaged a deal earlier this year that Trump’s special envoy Richard Grenell had made with Maduro. All this clown wants is war. I used to think Mike Pompeo was the worst Secretary of State of all time, but now I believe that should be said about Rubio.

SiriusRex's avatar

Have you seen the Ears on that Dumbo?!!!!😂🤣😂

Maybe's avatar

What "peace plan?" That little stunt was a big fail all around. Except for Witless Witkoff - who gets to jet to Moscow for another mini holiday.

GS-z-14-1's avatar

Throw Rubio a rifle. Let him show us how it’s done!

Liz Burton's avatar

It’s why he’s there.

Renee Marie's avatar

Little Marco strikes again!

Liberty Liz's avatar

Another one of Trump's truly horrendous "picks", as if there are any good ones, with the exception of 2 or 3. He either learned nothing from his previous time playing president, or he's a hard-core globalist-controlled puppet (which he's pretty much proving on the daily).

Renee Marie's avatar

He’s a Globalist. People are finally waking up regarding Trump. He is not pro-American at all. Everything he does is not in the best interest of the U.S.

Liberty Liz's avatar

Exactly. The whole "left vs right" paradigm (two wings of the same bird) is just a psyop to fuel an insane, distractionary narrative so NPCs won't look at the puppetmasters, NGOs, public private partnerships, technocrats, donor class, and foreign demons running the U N agenda sh!t show pretending to be U S "g0vt".

Liberty Liz's avatar

Exactly. Yet, the right has become the left... exercising ZERO discernment and even less demand for accountability from the people "elected" (selected) to represent WeThePeople. Never thought the day would come where the right would become a cult, with no critical thinking or observational skills, who simply adore someone who's proven himself to be aligned against them. Guess it was that big, beautiful, D0D, OWS jab that rotted out their brains.

Renee Marie's avatar

I no longer belong to any political party.

For me, it’s Good vs. evil…Morality vs. Immortality