Forcing genocide victims to negotiate with the genocidaires who are slaughtering them is like forcing domestic violence victims to negotiate with their abusers for terms acceptable to continue to stay in the home with them. This entire arrangement is not just immoral, inhumane, and barbaric, but it is illegal by every standard on the face of the earth.
Israel Katz like all the other government ministers and Israeli citizens is a despicable racist cunt. The whole world is turning its back on Israel for what it’s doing to the Palestinians and rightly so. They’ve been exposed as a sick psychopathic society and it can’t be unseen. No amount of bots, paid shills, propaganda, buy over of media or apps will ever change that. They are forever stained as a people who committed genocide. Forever despised by the world. They can’t silence us no matter what they do. We have voices and will keep telling the stories of the horrors they forced on the Palestinian people for decades. For centuries these stories will be passed down from person to person. No-one can ever stop that.
This genocide will be remembered by the world. It won’t be forgotten and it will never be forgiven.
How does the author of this article explain to himself the full withdrawal of all Israeli military, police and settlers from Gaza 18 years ago? How does he reconcile that historical fact with statements that imply Israel is the aggressor in this conflict? It’s bizarre. It’s like there’s no historical sense of anything. Is it AI written?
How do you explain Netanyahu's support of Hamas all these years? How do you explain the stand down order on Oct 7? How do you explain the 6-7 hours it took to rescue their fellow Israelis? There's a lot that's been left out of the story of how they got here.
Netanyahu - and a lot of other Israeli's, probably most other Israelis - foolishly believed that Hamas was weak, that it lacked the resources or will to provide a serious military threat to Israel. He believed, cynically if correctly, that by supporting Hamas he would be leaving Gaza in the hands of incompetents who would more or less stay contained. He was wrong. He will pay - eventually - at the polls.
I had no idea what you meant by "the stand down order on Oct 7." I googled it and I could not find any substantiated evidence that the IDF knew of the October 7 attack in advance or in any way encouraged it to happen. Please let me know if you have any contrary evidence. Post it here and I will give it a serious look.
Wikipedia has a pretty good timeline for the military response. The link is below. I don't find the time intervals particularly surprising. Remember that no one in Israel really imagined that such a security breach was possible. We now have images and memories of the slaughter so it feels very real, but it took a few days for that to spread through the Israeli consciousness. The same would be true in our country if something similar happened. People's brains don't adjust instantly. Their sense of possibility is constrained by their knowledge of the past. If Hamas ever tries the same thing again the reality of it will take no more than minutes to propagate through the Israeli collective mind, which now has the experience of a massacre. Today, the Apaches would take flight within 15 or 30 minutes. Since Hamas has promised never to surrender, and publicly promised to repeat October 7 forever and ever, we may have a chance to find out in the future just how quickly Israelis can respond. In any case it will take at least a couple of generations for Israel to get so complacent again.
Hamas did not and does not represent a serious military threat to Israel. Hamas’s attack on October 7 did nothing to reduce Israel’s military capacity. It is as if on December 7, 1941, the Japanese had landed a few companies of infantry in Honolulu, killed a bunch of civilians, raped some women, and grabbed some hostages, but done nothing to attack the Pacific fleet. It was perhaps the most retarded attack in military history.
the israeli military sucks at anything other than “shooting 12 year olds for throwing stones” or “slaughtering civilians and blowing up hospitals”.
In actuality— the assault into israel by Palestinian factions routed units of the “Gaza Division” completely. A lot of the “kibbutz security teams” were wiped out as well and the IDF was in disarray for at least 6 or 7 hours, lol.
The IDF higher ups have admitted repeatedly that the IDF is “fought out” in terms of Gaza alone. If they’re so desperate for manpower that they’re trying to recruit the Haredis and the children of Thai guest workers, that doesn’t sound like an IDF “triumph” to me.
Not to mention that they achieved exactly nothing militarily— although it’s fair to say that their genocidal terrorism against Palestinians was the real mission.
If the Israeli military sucks, why didn’t the Arabs win in 1948, 1967, or 1973? I mean, granted, Israel had the benefit of fighting Arabs, but they still won. None of the nearby Arab states seem interested in a rematch.
1948 and 1967 were cartoonishly in favour of israel even before the hostilities commenced. 1967 especially so because israel attacked people who weren't even prepared for combat in any way.
1973? If it wasn't for nickelgrass and nuclear blackmail, I'm quite sure israel wouldn't have won. They started taking major L's again when they tried to take Ismalia and Suez as well.
I love how you people constantly out yourselves as frothing at the mouth with your hatred and contempt for Arabs.
And if I said "why didn't your heroes make something of themselves as opposed to running around moaning about how everyone hates them" you'd call me a bigot.
No, it is not AI written. Your whole life, however, is written by the Jewish-supremacist clero-fascist genocidal POS death cult 🇮🇱 AI. This, in turn, exposes your hasbara POS mirror image 👇🏽 for the 🌐 Congrats!
That's not really an answer, is it? It's just name calling, something people do when they don't have their own thoughts, and therefore can't support or advocate for them. The Palestinians are in a truly tragic situation. Hamas is fighting - and winning - a media war for the hearts and minds of compassionate westerners who are appalled by the destruction in Gaza. The more Palestinians who die, the better Hamas looks to people who think a ceasefire is the most important thing. Would I be right to think you're one of those people? Or do you want to see Hamas defeated and the governance of Gaza turned over to a group no longer interested in the Forever War against Israel? Or are you a supporter of the Forever War against Israel? I know you're against children dying. So are we all. But what are you actually for?
There was never a “full withdrawal.” That supposes freedom of movement by land and sea, which has never been the case for Palestinians since Zionists began stealing their land and homes in 1948 at the barrel of a gun. You claim the essay is propaganda and yet you twist the facts to serve an Israeli narrative that is nothing but lies.
You can have a full withdrawal and still enforce movement across your borders. Seems a little pedantic to say that Israel didn’t fully withdraw because they wouldn’t allow Gazans to move freely across Israeli borders, right? Come on Sandy. Israel withdrew. The author doesn’t seem to take that into account at all. It’s not a minor detail.
I don’t think so. In layman’s terms “full withdrawal” means freedom of movement. Israel’s “full withdrawal” routinely was described as an “open air prison” in an apartheid system worse than South Africa’s according to Jimmy Carter. That tracks with Zionist cruelty and bloodlust.
A good objective mechanism to determine if a country is stressed in the way you describe is to measure, relative to its cultural and geographic peers, basic indicators like per capita GDP, infant mortality rate, population growth, and other standard metrics of societal health. In the years after Israel withdrew from in 2005 things in Gaza were pretty... average. Its metrics look a lot like Morocco's. The neutral data doesn't support the claim that Gaza was an "open air prison." Gaza is a pretty typical Middle Eastern place, albeit with particularly thuggish local governance in the form of Hamas, which routinely murders its internal political foes. The Israelis are not responsible for the internal state of Gaza between 2005 and 2023.
In addition, Gaza shares a border with Egypt. A prison isn't a prison if it has even one open door, but Egypt did not allow that. What, in your mind, explains Egypt's refusal to allow Gazan to come and go?
By blocking its sea routes and land routes — leaving only a closed Egyptian border ( no borders are open between countries) Israel made itself completely responsible for the atrocities in Gaza during the time you described, before and since. Palestinians were never given a chance to thrive — quite the opposite. Israel’s illegal settlements and impunity from international law crippled Palestinian well-being. Jews were driven from 109 countries before the satanic state of Israel was created. To what do you attribute that?
I think you're saying here that it's the Jews' fault that they have had to wander the earth more or less defenseless for thousands of years. Yu figure they must have done something to earn all that enmity. Do you actually know any Jews? Talk about blaming the victim! It's the stuff of a comedy routine, except that it isn't funny.
But... "satanic state"? Oops. I thought I was talking to a rational person. Sorry to have wasted your time. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I actually do appreciate it.
Antisemitism is in full steam all around the world. People are uneducated and clueless about the history and the politics of a region they never set foot in. If Israel gave everything the terrorists asked for, Palestinians would still be fully committed to killing every Jew. One has to ask why no Arab and Muslim country wants them. If October 7 had happened in the US or any other Western country, everyone would be calling for retaliation.
If a comment isn’t one’s opinions conveyed in a civilized and intelligent manner but a word salad of insults, I will not give that person the time of the day. Anyone incapable of a debate is a useless keyboard warrior not worthy of engaging with. And the people who foolishly believe they are on the right side of history by labeling everyone who doesn’t blindly support Palestine a Nazi are desecrating the memory of 6 million Jews who perished during the Holocaust.
The time of debating was given. 80 years of debating while the genocide and land theft was and is still going on by israelus and zionist sociopaths. It was, and is still the method used to gain time to finish the job as they keep saying. Suffocating and exhausting the Palestinians in endless bullshit talk and legal procedures... and trying to stuff common good sense in people like you, is and was a total waste of time as we can see the result.
You’re still fucking war criminals — like all the women who support the IDF. There’s some clown from Chicago — Chicago619 — posting here who thinks he’s pretty special too. Look him up — you’d get along great.
I'm not sure how I found my way to this Substack, but the proposition that anything here constitutes dissidence really amuses me. This entire place is just boilerplate party antisemitism. The author both flatters himself and takes the mainstream position at the same time. The lack of self awareness is amazing. Anyway thanks for your careful comments. You're more patient than me.
In the comments here, the virulent attacks are hard to read, especially when you see that a defense minister says he will « slaughter » remaining Palestinians and people find that normal. That means the weakest of them who couldn’t travel : pregnant women and children, the disabled, the sick, the elderly, will get murdered. Others fear getting murdered on the way which Israel has done the other times it’s forced evacuation. This is reality, this is what is happening, this is what matters. For those who aren’t horrified by what Israel is doing and just want to argue and insult people, you’ve missed the point.
No, I don’t believe whatever I am told. I have been a professional historical researcher for over 25 years, I don’t get my news from television or social media but from diverse reliable sources in several countries. My hyphenated name shouldn’t be of interest, it’s like that simply because my legal name is different in the two countries of which I’m a citizen. Where I live, I see information that’s not available in the US where it’s censored. “Beta husband?” What’s that supposed to mean? What a dumb thing to say to someone you don’t know. End of “discussion.”
The blockade of Gaza — highlighted this week by the interception and arrest of the Sumud flotilla — shows what the Palestinians have faced for nearly 80 years. Zionist cruelty is now legend, and their blood lust has no end.
Well, a lot of us wouldn’t feel that way if a Zionist showed up demanding our homes and land. That wouldn’t fly in the U.S., for example. The Zionists have never behaved in a civilized manner where Palestinians were concerned, and neither has the United States. This should have been solved decades ago.
Nor you. But your parents made you think you and your pathetic life are something special — and they were completely wrong. They raised a fucking monster and nobody will give a shit when you die.
So what in actual fuck is the UN doing? Absofuckinglutely nothing, but pointing their shit covered booger hooks at Israel and crying boo hoo! Bad Israel! Bad Jew!
If the goddamned UN was worth half the shit they say they are…you still wouldn’t need to wipe your ass!
You want to end this?!?
Bring your blue hatted fucksticks to Gaza and help move the “innocents”, southward to safety. Because sure as mohammed is pedophilic homosexual, GAZA WILL BE CLEANSED OF HAMASSHOLES
The Palestinians can’t move because they can’t afford to pay extortion demanded by their fellow Palestinians? Money to camp? Money for transport? Imagine British civilians demanding money from soldiers trapped on the shore at Dunkirk to ferry them out. Walking six hours out of a war zone is too much to ask in exchange for your life? Now you see how a life of dependency and blame shifting affects human resilience. I’ve heard some bullshit in my life, but this has got to top the list.
The cars need gasoline asshat, and it is no longer running at western prices with supplies continually streaming in. And the drivers want payment for risk because who's going to take care of their family, if they get bombed by the mafia operation "Israel"?
But to answer your question, you illiterate jaw-wagger, the Jews in Europe couldn't evacuate without paying for the evacuation. No money, no flee. In some locations, kindly locals chipped in, but it still cost a few hundred dollars per person , and that's in 1940s dollars. Transportation isn't free, you handout-grubbing wretch.
To help Jews leave Denmark? Today, or is this a question of, if they knew then what we know now?
If the UN and assorted legitimate major humanitarian organizations weren't prevented in their mission by the "Israel"is (and btw I have recently commented elsewhere with a Knesset press release confirming that this was fully a decision they took, and their problem is, they need to propagandize more people into supporting that genocidal action), the situation on the ground would be much different. For one thing they would bring order and stability to the situation. Absent that stability, an exchange of cash, and the services it can buy, is the next option for organically generating order.
People are chipping in from all over the world to help Palestinians. Zionist pressure to shut down donation campaigns and funds delivery channels keeps taking this away from Palestinians. The Zionists mean to kill Palestinians in a way that hasn't been seen in modernity, hm except perhaps in the Bolshevik slaughters. Come to think of it....
well, that's quite a variety of insults thrown my way. We're not talking huge distances here. Gaza is 25 miles, top to bottom. It's pure profiteering and extortion by those kindly Palestinians who brought us Hamas. War is hell and I feel extremely poorly for innocent Gazans caught in the maw, but Hamas is responsible for their plight, not Israel
I disagree. Perhaps for healthy people, walking six hours is not too much to ask. But for people who have been attacked, bombed, moved numerous times, injured and then starved for several months, it is too much. Zionists invaded Palestinian land in 1948 and have been stealing land and homes at the barrel of a gun ever since — killing anyone who so much as threw a rock at a tank. And you think Israel is blameless? What are you smoking?
Like calls to like, always has. The historical record on that one is very clear. Complain about people knowing it though the ashkenazi may, what's happened stays happened.
You are a sociopath maniac. YOU ARE NOT ON YOU LAND, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT ON ALL OF THE LAND, YOU ARE NOT A SEMITE, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BRAINWASHED SERIAL THIEF AND KILLER.
Lots of capital letters there. Did you know that if you tap the shift key it will turn off the lock and restore the normal lower case function of the keyboard? Give it a try!
Fuck off Chris. Whether you're a conniving fraud, an ignorant fool or just trolling using pseudo-intellectual distraction and deflection, or a combination of all three, you're a rolled gold supporter of Israeli genocide. And history will be far from kind to you for your charmed menace.
But seriously, you need to buy a dictionary and look up the definition of “genocide.” It’s not a good look to use words whose meanings you don’t understand. You probably think it makes you sound intelligent. It’s actually the opposite. (You’re welcome.)
Looks like you stirred a hornet’s nest, Chris. The downside of the interwebs is the apparent equal footing of comments from the perennially confused and terminally stupid. This whole “genocide” trope against Israel is the pinnacle (or nadir) of it. The people PROMISING genocide are the Palestinians - it’s their stated objective. Yet Israel gets tagged with it. Bizarro world bullshit
History and tradition are all well and good, but I’m not going to let an age old conflict based on whose god is better or what was promised to whom thousands of years ago, dictate my present or future wellbeing. If you still insist after thousands of years on killing each other, then by all means have at it. Everyone else should stand back and let the problem be resolved by either fighting or peaceful resolution without third party intervention to draw arbitrary lines in the sand. That said, if your means of achieving victory is to annihilate the population of your adversary, aka genocide, then prepare yourselves for the ostracism of the entire civilized world.
Oh dear how many things can a simple mind get wrong in one paragraph. Same God, issue is only 100 years old, genocide does not have to be total annihilation. Only Israel has the capacity and the mendacity to do what it is currently doing - genocide. Zionism's supremacist nature and intractable vision for a Greater Israel and Israel's brutal colonisation, ethnic cleansing and belligerent occupation and system of apartheid are the sole reasons of the conflict. And as the nuclear armed state of the art middle power supported by the US up against against brave, courageous resistance groups with at best rudimentary weapons, Israel has always held every card in the deck.
Forcing genocide victims to negotiate with the genocidaires who are slaughtering them is like forcing domestic violence victims to negotiate with their abusers for terms acceptable to continue to stay in the home with them. This entire arrangement is not just immoral, inhumane, and barbaric, but it is illegal by every standard on the face of the earth.
Israel Katz like all the other government ministers and Israeli citizens is a despicable racist cunt. The whole world is turning its back on Israel for what it’s doing to the Palestinians and rightly so. They’ve been exposed as a sick psychopathic society and it can’t be unseen. No amount of bots, paid shills, propaganda, buy over of media or apps will ever change that. They are forever stained as a people who committed genocide. Forever despised by the world. They can’t silence us no matter what they do. We have voices and will keep telling the stories of the horrors they forced on the Palestinian people for decades. For centuries these stories will be passed down from person to person. No-one can ever stop that.
This genocide will be remembered by the world. It won’t be forgotten and it will never be forgiven.
Israel has lost its right to exist.
I suggest that the author closes the commentary section for non-subscribers since most of the comments are just hasbara.
I've blocked a lot of them.
I suggest keeping it open and blocking the trolls followed by deletion of their comments.
How does the author of this article explain to himself the full withdrawal of all Israeli military, police and settlers from Gaza 18 years ago? How does he reconcile that historical fact with statements that imply Israel is the aggressor in this conflict? It’s bizarre. It’s like there’s no historical sense of anything. Is it AI written?
How do you explain Netanyahu's support of Hamas all these years? How do you explain the stand down order on Oct 7? How do you explain the 6-7 hours it took to rescue their fellow Israelis? There's a lot that's been left out of the story of how they got here.
Netanyahu - and a lot of other Israeli's, probably most other Israelis - foolishly believed that Hamas was weak, that it lacked the resources or will to provide a serious military threat to Israel. He believed, cynically if correctly, that by supporting Hamas he would be leaving Gaza in the hands of incompetents who would more or less stay contained. He was wrong. He will pay - eventually - at the polls.
I had no idea what you meant by "the stand down order on Oct 7." I googled it and I could not find any substantiated evidence that the IDF knew of the October 7 attack in advance or in any way encouraged it to happen. Please let me know if you have any contrary evidence. Post it here and I will give it a serious look.
Wikipedia has a pretty good timeline for the military response. The link is below. I don't find the time intervals particularly surprising. Remember that no one in Israel really imagined that such a security breach was possible. We now have images and memories of the slaughter so it feels very real, but it took a few days for that to spread through the Israeli consciousness. The same would be true in our country if something similar happened. People's brains don't adjust instantly. Their sense of possibility is constrained by their knowledge of the past. If Hamas ever tries the same thing again the reality of it will take no more than minutes to propagate through the Israeli collective mind, which now has the experience of a massacre. Today, the Apaches would take flight within 15 or 30 minutes. Since Hamas has promised never to surrender, and publicly promised to repeat October 7 forever and ever, we may have a chance to find out in the future just how quickly Israelis can respond. In any case it will take at least a couple of generations for Israel to get so complacent again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_government_response_to_the_October_7_attacks#:~:text=08%3A15%3A%20Sirens%20were%20activated,begun%20counteroffensive%20operations%20against%20Hamas.
Hamas did not and does not represent a serious military threat to Israel. Hamas’s attack on October 7 did nothing to reduce Israel’s military capacity. It is as if on December 7, 1941, the Japanese had landed a few companies of infantry in Honolulu, killed a bunch of civilians, raped some women, and grabbed some hostages, but done nothing to attack the Pacific fleet. It was perhaps the most retarded attack in military history.
the israeli military sucks at anything other than “shooting 12 year olds for throwing stones” or “slaughtering civilians and blowing up hospitals”.
In actuality— the assault into israel by Palestinian factions routed units of the “Gaza Division” completely. A lot of the “kibbutz security teams” were wiped out as well and the IDF was in disarray for at least 6 or 7 hours, lol.
The IDF higher ups have admitted repeatedly that the IDF is “fought out” in terms of Gaza alone. If they’re so desperate for manpower that they’re trying to recruit the Haredis and the children of Thai guest workers, that doesn’t sound like an IDF “triumph” to me.
Not to mention that they achieved exactly nothing militarily— although it’s fair to say that their genocidal terrorism against Palestinians was the real mission.
If the Israeli military sucks, why didn’t the Arabs win in 1948, 1967, or 1973? I mean, granted, Israel had the benefit of fighting Arabs, but they still won. None of the nearby Arab states seem interested in a rematch.
So, Arab-hating cretin:
1948 and 1967 were cartoonishly in favour of israel even before the hostilities commenced. 1967 especially so because israel attacked people who weren't even prepared for combat in any way.
1973? If it wasn't for nickelgrass and nuclear blackmail, I'm quite sure israel wouldn't have won. They started taking major L's again when they tried to take Ismalia and Suez as well.
I love how you people constantly out yourselves as frothing at the mouth with your hatred and contempt for Arabs.
And if I said "why didn't your heroes make something of themselves as opposed to running around moaning about how everyone hates them" you'd call me a bigot.
Zionism is perhaps the most retarded ideology in human history.
No, it is not AI written. Your whole life, however, is written by the Jewish-supremacist clero-fascist genocidal POS death cult 🇮🇱 AI. This, in turn, exposes your hasbara POS mirror image 👇🏽 for the 🌐 Congrats!
Are you stupid or a complet sociopath?
Probably both.
You are a fucking idiot
Yo bro, why you need to be a dick?
That's not really an answer, is it? It's just name calling, something people do when they don't have their own thoughts, and therefore can't support or advocate for them. The Palestinians are in a truly tragic situation. Hamas is fighting - and winning - a media war for the hearts and minds of compassionate westerners who are appalled by the destruction in Gaza. The more Palestinians who die, the better Hamas looks to people who think a ceasefire is the most important thing. Would I be right to think you're one of those people? Or do you want to see Hamas defeated and the governance of Gaza turned over to a group no longer interested in the Forever War against Israel? Or are you a supporter of the Forever War against Israel? I know you're against children dying. So are we all. But what are you actually for?
You don't diserve more, and israel need to be dismateled totally.
Egypt, Syria, and Jordan tried that from 1948 to the 70s. How did that work out for them?
You are trying to reason with retards
I think you are retarded
I know you're a Nazi.
You're an idiot.
There was never a “full withdrawal.” That supposes freedom of movement by land and sea, which has never been the case for Palestinians since Zionists began stealing their land and homes in 1948 at the barrel of a gun. You claim the essay is propaganda and yet you twist the facts to serve an Israeli narrative that is nothing but lies.
You can have a full withdrawal and still enforce movement across your borders. Seems a little pedantic to say that Israel didn’t fully withdraw because they wouldn’t allow Gazans to move freely across Israeli borders, right? Come on Sandy. Israel withdrew. The author doesn’t seem to take that into account at all. It’s not a minor detail.
I don’t think so. In layman’s terms “full withdrawal” means freedom of movement. Israel’s “full withdrawal” routinely was described as an “open air prison” in an apartheid system worse than South Africa’s according to Jimmy Carter. That tracks with Zionist cruelty and bloodlust.
A good objective mechanism to determine if a country is stressed in the way you describe is to measure, relative to its cultural and geographic peers, basic indicators like per capita GDP, infant mortality rate, population growth, and other standard metrics of societal health. In the years after Israel withdrew from in 2005 things in Gaza were pretty... average. Its metrics look a lot like Morocco's. The neutral data doesn't support the claim that Gaza was an "open air prison." Gaza is a pretty typical Middle Eastern place, albeit with particularly thuggish local governance in the form of Hamas, which routinely murders its internal political foes. The Israelis are not responsible for the internal state of Gaza between 2005 and 2023.
In addition, Gaza shares a border with Egypt. A prison isn't a prison if it has even one open door, but Egypt did not allow that. What, in your mind, explains Egypt's refusal to allow Gazan to come and go?
By blocking its sea routes and land routes — leaving only a closed Egyptian border ( no borders are open between countries) Israel made itself completely responsible for the atrocities in Gaza during the time you described, before and since. Palestinians were never given a chance to thrive — quite the opposite. Israel’s illegal settlements and impunity from international law crippled Palestinian well-being. Jews were driven from 109 countries before the satanic state of Israel was created. To what do you attribute that?
I think you're saying here that it's the Jews' fault that they have had to wander the earth more or less defenseless for thousands of years. Yu figure they must have done something to earn all that enmity. Do you actually know any Jews? Talk about blaming the victim! It's the stuff of a comedy routine, except that it isn't funny.
But... "satanic state"? Oops. I thought I was talking to a rational person. Sorry to have wasted your time. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I actually do appreciate it.
Antisemitism is in full steam all around the world. People are uneducated and clueless about the history and the politics of a region they never set foot in. If Israel gave everything the terrorists asked for, Palestinians would still be fully committed to killing every Jew. One has to ask why no Arab and Muslim country wants them. If October 7 had happened in the US or any other Western country, everyone would be calling for retaliation.
Fuck off Nazi 😤
Fuck off zionist-nazi. I'm more semite than you'll ever be. israelis sociopath belong in a meat grinder to fertize all of Palestine.
Classy.
Like you. Once you start fucking war criminals, all notions of “class” go out the window.
If a comment isn’t one’s opinions conveyed in a civilized and intelligent manner but a word salad of insults, I will not give that person the time of the day. Anyone incapable of a debate is a useless keyboard warrior not worthy of engaging with. And the people who foolishly believe they are on the right side of history by labeling everyone who doesn’t blindly support Palestine a Nazi are desecrating the memory of 6 million Jews who perished during the Holocaust.
The time of debating was given. 80 years of debating while the genocide and land theft was and is still going on by israelus and zionist sociopaths. It was, and is still the method used to gain time to finish the job as they keep saying. Suffocating and exhausting the Palestinians in endless bullshit talk and legal procedures... and trying to stuff common good sense in people like you, is and was a total waste of time as we can see the result.
You’re still fucking war criminals — like all the women who support the IDF. There’s some clown from Chicago — Chicago619 — posting here who thinks he’s pretty special too. Look him up — you’d get along great.
I'm not sure how I found my way to this Substack, but the proposition that anything here constitutes dissidence really amuses me. This entire place is just boilerplate party antisemitism. The author both flatters himself and takes the mainstream position at the same time. The lack of self awareness is amazing. Anyway thanks for your careful comments. You're more patient than me.
israel is categorically the aggressor in this, the same as israel has been the aggressor since its creation.
Or do you think that people occupied by brutal supremacists should just lie down and die for their deranged ideology? I think you do.
Lmao, zionist chump.
You think that the israelis “withdrew from Gaza” in 05 out of good will? What a moronic statement.
In the comments here, the virulent attacks are hard to read, especially when you see that a defense minister says he will « slaughter » remaining Palestinians and people find that normal. That means the weakest of them who couldn’t travel : pregnant women and children, the disabled, the sick, the elderly, will get murdered. Others fear getting murdered on the way which Israel has done the other times it’s forced evacuation. This is reality, this is what is happening, this is what matters. For those who aren’t horrified by what Israel is doing and just want to argue and insult people, you’ve missed the point.
You’re a commie. Fuck off.
Do you believe whatever you are told? I’m guessing you are double masked with your hyphenated name. I feel bad for your beta husband.
No, I don’t believe whatever I am told. I have been a professional historical researcher for over 25 years, I don’t get my news from television or social media but from diverse reliable sources in several countries. My hyphenated name shouldn’t be of interest, it’s like that simply because my legal name is different in the two countries of which I’m a citizen. Where I live, I see information that’s not available in the US where it’s censored. “Beta husband?” What’s that supposed to mean? What a dumb thing to say to someone you don’t know. End of “discussion.”
Will the countries intervene who signed the Genocide Convention, promising TO PREVENT GENOCIDE ???
No, they are cowards.
The blockade of Gaza — highlighted this week by the interception and arrest of the Sumud flotilla — shows what the Palestinians have faced for nearly 80 years. Zionist cruelty is now legend, and their blood lust has no end.
Palestinians have no right to life in Palestine. Israel has every right to life anywhere they choose.
Well, a lot of us wouldn’t feel that way if a Zionist showed up demanding our homes and land. That wouldn’t fly in the U.S., for example. The Zionists have never behaved in a civilized manner where Palestinians were concerned, and neither has the United States. This should have been solved decades ago.
Well sandy, nobody gives two fucks what you think.
Nor you. But your parents made you think you and your pathetic life are something special — and they were completely wrong. They raised a fucking monster and nobody will give a shit when you die.
😂😂😂 sure
Yep. Never seen it dug up and opened up to the sun quite like this. For all to see. And judge.
So succinct.
Thank you
To you who normalize violence
You, who coat the blade in reason’s sheen,
Who call the necessary wound "clean,"
Who speak of impact, consequence, and cost,
But never of the human spirit lost.
You, who with a spreadsheet, cool and wise,
Can map the terror in a victim’s eyes,
And call it data, logical and sound,
While blood is pooling on the common ground.
You, who spin the story, shift the blame,
And whisper, “They are not quite us, the same.”
You build the wall of Us and Then and They,
To keep the echoing whimpers far away.
You, who call the tremor in the hand
A justified demand, a firm command.
You, who call the pre-emptive, cruel strike
“A lesson taught,” for some imagined type.
You swallow bitterness and call it wine,
And make your poison seem a sacred sign.
You dress the executioner in gray,
And call his busy, bloody work “a day.”
But know this, you who normalizes dread:
The dominoes you line up are not dead.
They wait. They watch. They learn your cold design.
The violence you excuse will also be mine.
It will not stop where you have drawn the line.
It feeds on boundaries, fuzzy and defined.
It grows. It learns the language that you taught.
It turns on the very hand which it once sought.
The house you build on this corrupted stone
Will echo with a deep and gathering moan.
For every “them” you sacrifice with ease
A piece of common, shared humanity must freeze.
So when you feel the world grow stark and cold,
And wonder at the hatred you behold,
Look to the poison you well learned to bear,
And see its familiar face reflected there.
For violence, normalized, is a seed
That grows a wasteland of a common weed,
And in its shade, no beautiful thing stands—
Not in the far-off, not in your own hands.
Beautiful and accurate poem, Cui Bono.
So what in actual fuck is the UN doing? Absofuckinglutely nothing, but pointing their shit covered booger hooks at Israel and crying boo hoo! Bad Israel! Bad Jew!
If the goddamned UN was worth half the shit they say they are…you still wouldn’t need to wipe your ass!
You want to end this?!?
Bring your blue hatted fucksticks to Gaza and help move the “innocents”, southward to safety. Because sure as mohammed is pedophilic homosexual, GAZA WILL BE CLEANSED OF HAMASSHOLES
He will go down in history as debouched as Hitler
Savage Racist Psychotic Zionist Holocausters!
I wouldn't mind if this happened in Tel Aviv one day.
You are a fucking clown. Do you know what happened on 10/7/2023? Israel should have turned Gaza to glass the next day.
Ok “Wilter”. Is that your name or are you describing your dick?
All I want is for the Israelis to experience what they have unleashed on Gaza. Why is that so offensive to you?
The Palestinians can’t move because they can’t afford to pay extortion demanded by their fellow Palestinians? Money to camp? Money for transport? Imagine British civilians demanding money from soldiers trapped on the shore at Dunkirk to ferry them out. Walking six hours out of a war zone is too much to ask in exchange for your life? Now you see how a life of dependency and blame shifting affects human resilience. I’ve heard some bullshit in my life, but this has got to top the list.
The cars need gasoline asshat, and it is no longer running at western prices with supplies continually streaming in. And the drivers want payment for risk because who's going to take care of their family, if they get bombed by the mafia operation "Israel"?
But to answer your question, you illiterate jaw-wagger, the Jews in Europe couldn't evacuate without paying for the evacuation. No money, no flee. In some locations, kindly locals chipped in, but it still cost a few hundred dollars per person , and that's in 1940s dollars. Transportation isn't free, you handout-grubbing wretch.
I wonder if those locals that chipped in back then would do it again?
To help Jews leave Denmark? Today, or is this a question of, if they knew then what we know now?
If the UN and assorted legitimate major humanitarian organizations weren't prevented in their mission by the "Israel"is (and btw I have recently commented elsewhere with a Knesset press release confirming that this was fully a decision they took, and their problem is, they need to propagandize more people into supporting that genocidal action), the situation on the ground would be much different. For one thing they would bring order and stability to the situation. Absent that stability, an exchange of cash, and the services it can buy, is the next option for organically generating order.
People are chipping in from all over the world to help Palestinians. Zionist pressure to shut down donation campaigns and funds delivery channels keeps taking this away from Palestinians. The Zionists mean to kill Palestinians in a way that hasn't been seen in modernity, hm except perhaps in the Bolshevik slaughters. Come to think of it....
well, that's quite a variety of insults thrown my way. We're not talking huge distances here. Gaza is 25 miles, top to bottom. It's pure profiteering and extortion by those kindly Palestinians who brought us Hamas. War is hell and I feel extremely poorly for innocent Gazans caught in the maw, but Hamas is responsible for their plight, not Israel
I disagree. Perhaps for healthy people, walking six hours is not too much to ask. But for people who have been attacked, bombed, moved numerous times, injured and then starved for several months, it is too much. Zionists invaded Palestinian land in 1948 and have been stealing land and homes at the barrel of a gun ever since — killing anyone who so much as threw a rock at a tank. And you think Israel is blameless? What are you smoking?
He's a Zionist. Their moral compass is, "whatever I want is what's right and true". There's no arguing with them, only trial and punishment.
When I look at the entities involved and think, who would I rather live under, the answer is crystal clear.
Like calls to like, always has. The historical record on that one is very clear. Complain about people knowing it though the ashkenazi may, what's happened stays happened.
And you'll get a few more if you continue your gaslighting bullshit. Whether a fraud or a fool, you're supporting Israeli genocide
The authors of these articles are not serious people. It’s pretty standard propaganda.
You are a sociopath maniac. YOU ARE NOT ON YOU LAND, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT ON ALL OF THE LAND, YOU ARE NOT A SEMITE, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BRAINWASHED SERIAL THIEF AND KILLER.
Lots of capital letters there. Did you know that if you tap the shift key it will turn off the lock and restore the normal lower case function of the keyboard? Give it a try!
Fuck off Chris. Whether you're a conniving fraud, an ignorant fool or just trolling using pseudo-intellectual distraction and deflection, or a combination of all three, you're a rolled gold supporter of Israeli genocide. And history will be far from kind to you for your charmed menace.
Such manners! Would your parents approve?
But seriously, you need to buy a dictionary and look up the definition of “genocide.” It’s not a good look to use words whose meanings you don’t understand. You probably think it makes you sound intelligent. It’s actually the opposite. (You’re welcome.)
Looks like you stirred a hornet’s nest, Chris. The downside of the interwebs is the apparent equal footing of comments from the perennially confused and terminally stupid. This whole “genocide” trope against Israel is the pinnacle (or nadir) of it. The people PROMISING genocide are the Palestinians - it’s their stated objective. Yet Israel gets tagged with it. Bizarro world bullshit
History and tradition are all well and good, but I’m not going to let an age old conflict based on whose god is better or what was promised to whom thousands of years ago, dictate my present or future wellbeing. If you still insist after thousands of years on killing each other, then by all means have at it. Everyone else should stand back and let the problem be resolved by either fighting or peaceful resolution without third party intervention to draw arbitrary lines in the sand. That said, if your means of achieving victory is to annihilate the population of your adversary, aka genocide, then prepare yourselves for the ostracism of the entire civilized world.
Oh dear how many things can a simple mind get wrong in one paragraph. Same God, issue is only 100 years old, genocide does not have to be total annihilation. Only Israel has the capacity and the mendacity to do what it is currently doing - genocide. Zionism's supremacist nature and intractable vision for a Greater Israel and Israel's brutal colonisation, ethnic cleansing and belligerent occupation and system of apartheid are the sole reasons of the conflict. And as the nuclear armed state of the art middle power supported by the US up against against brave, courageous resistance groups with at best rudimentary weapons, Israel has always held every card in the deck.
Sickening.