Nice article. It shows and proves the USA involvement in starting the Ukraine war. Why it started and by whom. I love the US but not its foreign policy.
Does the author understand how few Americans are aware of these facts?
There’s many foolish Americans who to this very day blame only Russia for this fiasco. That the USA is completely innocent. It is not so.
Non of my friends and neighbors knew anything about 2014 coup in Ukraine? They also never heard of Victoria Nuland, or her comment eff the EU? Our people ONLY knows the spins of our neocon overlords.
It's very much the same here in Sweden, I'm sad to say. I've known what really happened in 2014 a long time, including the history and events leading up to it, and what followed with demonstrations against the coup regime across Ukraine and the violent response (like in Odessa) and the rise of Azov, Aidar, etc., but trying to tell colleagues, friends, or even family members about it has so far been met by blank stares. Jacques Baud's book Operation Z is very good and I recommend everyone I talk to about Russia/Ukraine to read it.
In 2011? I went to visit my congressman to urge him to hand off Syria? That when our media kept telling us we will not have boots on the ground in Syria. Until today, the US never admitted building many bases in Syria. I guess all our soldiers are bare footed..no boots on the ground.
When Putin first came to power in his very first announcement to the world he said “ NATO was created as a bulwark against the Soviet Union, but the old Soviet Union no longer exists, the Warsaw Pact has disbanded. Is it now not time to create a new security system for Europe one in which Russia is included, or if not then let Russia join NATO. We do not fear NATO but we do not see the need for it” This seems to have fallen on deaf NATO ears. Was that an unreasonable request ?.
I finished reading it. Yes, Russia was provoked. It’s really sickening to see The ‘War Pigs’ do their thing. I wonder if the Ukrainian people will ever realize that they are just pawns in the machine.
All of the security and systemic issues are huge and provoked tge war. But one of the things I always find most interesting is just how little many westerners care about East Ukraine and Crimea. It isn't right to be so declamatory about one form of self-defining whilst being so dismissive of another.
Have written about all that is in Dissident's article, but it is done very well here. For anyone that has any doubts, read it again, read my work, read others. If this war wasn't provoked, then the word has no meaning in the English language.
“NATO ignored this warning and expanded NATO to the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland in 1999, and Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia in 2004.”
I guess the domino effect is real, Criminal kissinger knew about it bc thats how the CIA operates
Definitely. Been writing about this for years, Abbas. Lived in Russia for 10 years and it was something that seemed inevitable, that eventually Russia would freak out. In fact, it was predicted even before Putin came to power.
Time for us to leave nato, close about 799 military bases across the earth, and leave the rest of the world to their own devices. Seems like the us government is behind every fucking war on earth.
Nato is the extended weapons dealer of the US - or at least, has been so very successfully in the past, before the EU finally woke up with T's second denand to increase the spending to the 5% level of each of its member states GDP.
Your Bandar republic is at its end. From the start, you’ve been nothing but tools of the west. Now you see that you’ve bought yourselves nothing but destruction.
2-3 years ago when i told a. friend i supported russia in this disastrous ‘war’, he was horrified.. from the little that was out then, we still knew, russia was not just provoked but goaded into war..boris johnson had said once, we wanted to retain western hefemony..in all these wars it’s always USA backed by UK, EU who can’t stand up to usa,, killing thousands, in the name of democracy…i feel totally vindicated.. even though infuriated by the hateful CIA and US govts unending lust for power .. this is why even though no supporter of Xi, i am glad he is supporting Putin. Excellent article,, has to be saved.
The US needs to be able to rile its population against an enemy. In order to keep the highly influential and election campaign contributing military industrial complex not only going, but growing. Eisenhower warned against it in the 1950's (70 years ago, or 3 generations).
Reflecting on the "deal" T signed with Zelensky just some months ago to gain access for US corporations to the minerals in Ukraine in exchange for weapon deliveries it all starts to make so much more sense. Perhaps, after all, T is the one playing P?
Our “Intelligence” agencies do more to provoke hatred and violence against our citizens than they do to protect us. We’ve been the unwitting subjects of a Maidan-style, regime-change coup that has been ongoing since 2015. For those who comment that the US-orchestrated coup in Ukraine, the subsequent provocation of war, and the Russiagate hoax are “old news”, consider the seemingly inexplicable machinery created to mobilize the migration of a million violent, military-aged men into the U.S. on Joe Biden’s watch. We’re still in the middle of a coup attempt against the Trump administration. I look forward to another excellent expose’ revealing the ongoing role of the Coup Imposing Agency to overthrow a duly elected president right here in the homeland. The tactics are the same.
I’ve read some of this before. I’ve even tried to explain some of it to people I know with no success at all. People believe what the BBC, in particular, tell them. Crap and bollocks in other words. Thank you for putting it all together.
Jack F Matlock junior, was a US ambassador to Russia, and helped in the negotiations to end the Cold War. Long before this conflict started he predicted that expanding NATO up to Russias front garden would be a recipe for conflict with Russia. There is an old saying, there are two sides to every story, but the problem is in western media you only hear one side. Do you notice when there are discussions about this conflict, western media only interview anti Russia spokespersons in their broadcasts, so if let’s say 90 percent get their information from mainstream media, you can see how easy it is to brainwash people. If you want to know who rules you just find out who controls your mainstream media.
I have a large family and I even have Russian relatives who are, at present, living in Barcelona as they work there. So, I get info that’s not mainstream. However, large numbers of Brits are, it appears, brainwashed from birth about our wonderful, truthful, and totally reliable media, so I usually get nowhere trying to express different views. I don’t give up though as I’ve always been incredibly stubborn and determined which has gotten me through some difficult situations more than once.
And the West could have not bothered the Ukraine in the first place. Excellent review of history.
However, we can go back in time to the end of the war in Europe. At that time, Russians and Americans still glowed with victory accomplished through cooperation; however, soon enough the American leadership decided to deem the USSR as 'enemy'.
This was partly a political move, as in Orwell's 1984 a random enemy existed to unify society. It was partly an ideological move, as obsessive anti-communism was strong in American elites.
Perhaps most importantly was economic, as the Americans had viewed the effects of a militarized economy on finally lifting out of the Great Depression. The Americans chose military production as the core of its economy. And for this to work, they needed an enemy.
I hold this "military Keynesianism" as the main driver of hostility towards Russia, but as in 1984, hostility could easily turn to Iran or China, or be kept for all three non-compliant nations.
Or, we “can go back in time to the end of” September 1940. At that time, Russians and Germans still glowed with victory accomplished through cooperation; however, soon enough the Western leaders decided to deem the USSR as 'enemy'.
How foolish the West was to refuse to trust Stalin at the end of WW2.
They should have followed the example of Czech liberals and cooperated with the Communists.
Utter nonsense because a historical alternative must have a basis in reality. For instance, there really was a socialist Henry Wallace who was sidelined as FDR's VP with the lackey Harry Truman. Creating a history where Wallace became President would be fascinating.
However, in 1940, Stalin viewed Hitler as Soviet Enemy #1 and considered the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement to be a defeat of Europe's best chance to stop Hitler. As for 'liberals', German liberal bourgeoisie cooperated with the Nazis and helped kill communists. You also misunderstand Czechoslovakia. Almost all mainstream Western history is self-serving Narrative to serve capitalist hegemony.
I have to ask - why did those countries want to join NATO? And why did Russia not want them to join? It seems like Russia wanted to be free to attack/annex those nations without repercussions from NATO countries, and those nations wanted to join because they wanted protection against Russian attacks. If that’s the case it’s hard for me to interpret that as “provocation” - Putin just didn’t like that we shut down his Imperialist aspirations.
I am far from an expert on this topic though, so if someone has a good argument for why this view isn’t accurate I’m interested in hearing it.
Nice article. It shows and proves the USA involvement in starting the Ukraine war. Why it started and by whom. I love the US but not its foreign policy.
Does the author understand how few Americans are aware of these facts?
There’s many foolish Americans who to this very day blame only Russia for this fiasco. That the USA is completely innocent. It is not so.
How few are aware....well asked.
More are aware than in the past… but mainstream media has a strong pull on the masses.
The MSM is becoming more irrelevant, thank God.
I'm quite aware that the US QBed a coup.
That doesn't excuse Russia invading Ukraine in 2014.
Non of my friends and neighbors knew anything about 2014 coup in Ukraine? They also never heard of Victoria Nuland, or her comment eff the EU? Our people ONLY knows the spins of our neocon overlords.
Same here.
In attempts to explain, I'm naturally called a conspiracy theorist.
Same in Belgium. Most people just swallow the lies of the MSM.
It's very much the same here in Sweden, I'm sad to say. I've known what really happened in 2014 a long time, including the history and events leading up to it, and what followed with demonstrations against the coup regime across Ukraine and the violent response (like in Odessa) and the rise of Azov, Aidar, etc., but trying to tell colleagues, friends, or even family members about it has so far been met by blank stares. Jacques Baud's book Operation Z is very good and I recommend everyone I talk to about Russia/Ukraine to read it.
In 2011? I went to visit my congressman to urge him to hand off Syria? That when our media kept telling us we will not have boots on the ground in Syria. Until today, the US never admitted building many bases in Syria. I guess all our soldiers are bare footed..no boots on the ground.
When Putin first came to power in his very first announcement to the world he said “ NATO was created as a bulwark against the Soviet Union, but the old Soviet Union no longer exists, the Warsaw Pact has disbanded. Is it now not time to create a new security system for Europe one in which Russia is included, or if not then let Russia join NATO. We do not fear NATO but we do not see the need for it” This seems to have fallen on deaf NATO ears. Was that an unreasonable request ?.
Can’t wait to sit down and read this when I get the chance, but definitely agree with the title!!
I finished reading it. Yes, Russia was provoked. It’s really sickening to see The ‘War Pigs’ do their thing. I wonder if the Ukrainian people will ever realize that they are just pawns in the machine.
All of the security and systemic issues are huge and provoked tge war. But one of the things I always find most interesting is just how little many westerners care about East Ukraine and Crimea. It isn't right to be so declamatory about one form of self-defining whilst being so dismissive of another.
Have written about all that is in Dissident's article, but it is done very well here. For anyone that has any doubts, read it again, read my work, read others. If this war wasn't provoked, then the word has no meaning in the English language.
Well researched and done. Thanks!
“NATO ignored this warning and expanded NATO to the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland in 1999, and Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia in 2004.”
I guess the domino effect is real, Criminal kissinger knew about it bc thats how the CIA operates
Intentionally
Definitely. Been writing about this for years, Abbas. Lived in Russia for 10 years and it was something that seemed inevitable, that eventually Russia would freak out. In fact, it was predicted even before Putin came to power.
Reading Scott Horton’s “Provoked.” America gave up the “peace dividend” for NATO expansion and this conflict. Disturbing beyond pale.
Time for us to leave nato, close about 799 military bases across the earth, and leave the rest of the world to their own devices. Seems like the us government is behind every fucking war on earth.
Don't forget:
Nato is the extended weapons dealer of the US - or at least, has been so very successfully in the past, before the EU finally woke up with T's second denand to increase the spending to the 5% level of each of its member states GDP.
this is russian agitprop
GTFO you stinking bastards
You’re a fucking idiot.
Він наносить лосьйон на шкіру. Він робить це щоразу, коли йому кажуть.
Poor little fool.
kgb bullshit
Your Bandar republic is at its end. From the start, you’ve been nothing but tools of the west. Now you see that you’ve bought yourselves nothing but destruction.
Da Tovarisch. In Glorious Rodina, KGB fists YOU 🤣🤣🤣
Lions, Tigers, and Bears oh my. Fkn pussy-ass faggot. Scared of your own shadow.
translated for you "nitchevo. davai."
fukkoutta here commie
Hahaha. The US is more commie today than the Russian Federation, dumbass.
Він наносить лосьйон на шкіру. Він робить це щоразу, коли йому кажуть.
Lions, Tigers, and Bears oh my. Fkn pussy-ass faggot. Scared of your own shadow.
There's only one stinking bastard in these parts, klitoris. And it's you.
2-3 years ago when i told a. friend i supported russia in this disastrous ‘war’, he was horrified.. from the little that was out then, we still knew, russia was not just provoked but goaded into war..boris johnson had said once, we wanted to retain western hefemony..in all these wars it’s always USA backed by UK, EU who can’t stand up to usa,, killing thousands, in the name of democracy…i feel totally vindicated.. even though infuriated by the hateful CIA and US govts unending lust for power .. this is why even though no supporter of Xi, i am glad he is supporting Putin. Excellent article,, has to be saved.
It is all done on purpose.
The US needs to be able to rile its population against an enemy. In order to keep the highly influential and election campaign contributing military industrial complex not only going, but growing. Eisenhower warned against it in the 1950's (70 years ago, or 3 generations).
Reflecting on the "deal" T signed with Zelensky just some months ago to gain access for US corporations to the minerals in Ukraine in exchange for weapon deliveries it all starts to make so much more sense. Perhaps, after all, T is the one playing P?
Our “Intelligence” agencies do more to provoke hatred and violence against our citizens than they do to protect us. We’ve been the unwitting subjects of a Maidan-style, regime-change coup that has been ongoing since 2015. For those who comment that the US-orchestrated coup in Ukraine, the subsequent provocation of war, and the Russiagate hoax are “old news”, consider the seemingly inexplicable machinery created to mobilize the migration of a million violent, military-aged men into the U.S. on Joe Biden’s watch. We’re still in the middle of a coup attempt against the Trump administration. I look forward to another excellent expose’ revealing the ongoing role of the Coup Imposing Agency to overthrow a duly elected president right here in the homeland. The tactics are the same.
I’ve read some of this before. I’ve even tried to explain some of it to people I know with no success at all. People believe what the BBC, in particular, tell them. Crap and bollocks in other words. Thank you for putting it all together.
Jack F Matlock junior, was a US ambassador to Russia, and helped in the negotiations to end the Cold War. Long before this conflict started he predicted that expanding NATO up to Russias front garden would be a recipe for conflict with Russia. There is an old saying, there are two sides to every story, but the problem is in western media you only hear one side. Do you notice when there are discussions about this conflict, western media only interview anti Russia spokespersons in their broadcasts, so if let’s say 90 percent get their information from mainstream media, you can see how easy it is to brainwash people. If you want to know who rules you just find out who controls your mainstream media.
I have a large family and I even have Russian relatives who are, at present, living in Barcelona as they work there. So, I get info that’s not mainstream. However, large numbers of Brits are, it appears, brainwashed from birth about our wonderful, truthful, and totally reliable media, so I usually get nowhere trying to express different views. I don’t give up though as I’ve always been incredibly stubborn and determined which has gotten me through some difficult situations more than once.
I am from Ireland, even here the story is Russia is the bad guy. We should know better.
And the West could have not bothered the Ukraine in the first place. Excellent review of history.
However, we can go back in time to the end of the war in Europe. At that time, Russians and Americans still glowed with victory accomplished through cooperation; however, soon enough the American leadership decided to deem the USSR as 'enemy'.
This was partly a political move, as in Orwell's 1984 a random enemy existed to unify society. It was partly an ideological move, as obsessive anti-communism was strong in American elites.
Perhaps most importantly was economic, as the Americans had viewed the effects of a militarized economy on finally lifting out of the Great Depression. The Americans chose military production as the core of its economy. And for this to work, they needed an enemy.
I hold this "military Keynesianism" as the main driver of hostility towards Russia, but as in 1984, hostility could easily turn to Iran or China, or be kept for all three non-compliant nations.
Or, we “can go back in time to the end of” September 1940. At that time, Russians and Germans still glowed with victory accomplished through cooperation; however, soon enough the Western leaders decided to deem the USSR as 'enemy'.
How foolish the West was to refuse to trust Stalin at the end of WW2.
They should have followed the example of Czech liberals and cooperated with the Communists.
What could go wrong?
Utter nonsense because a historical alternative must have a basis in reality. For instance, there really was a socialist Henry Wallace who was sidelined as FDR's VP with the lackey Harry Truman. Creating a history where Wallace became President would be fascinating.
However, in 1940, Stalin viewed Hitler as Soviet Enemy #1 and considered the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement to be a defeat of Europe's best chance to stop Hitler. As for 'liberals', German liberal bourgeoisie cooperated with the Nazis and helped kill communists. You also misunderstand Czechoslovakia. Almost all mainstream Western history is self-serving Narrative to serve capitalist hegemony.
I have to ask - why did those countries want to join NATO? And why did Russia not want them to join? It seems like Russia wanted to be free to attack/annex those nations without repercussions from NATO countries, and those nations wanted to join because they wanted protection against Russian attacks. If that’s the case it’s hard for me to interpret that as “provocation” - Putin just didn’t like that we shut down his Imperialist aspirations.
I am far from an expert on this topic though, so if someone has a good argument for why this view isn’t accurate I’m interested in hearing it.